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    The Jabberwocky - Lewis Carroll

    `Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
    Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
    All mimsy were the borogoves,
    And the mome raths outgrabe.

    "Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
    The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
    Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
    The frumious Bandersnatch!"

    He took his vorpal sword in hand:
    Long time the manxome foe he sought --
    So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
    And stood awhile in thought.

    And, as in uffish thought he stood,
    The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
    Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
    And burbled as it came!

    One, two! One, two! And through and through
    The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
    He left it dead, and with its head
    He went galumphing back.

    "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
    Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
    O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
    He chortled in his joy.

    `Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
    Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
    All mimsy were the borogoves,
    And the mome raths outgrabe.
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    "Kilgore Trout once wrote a short story which was a dialogue between two pieces of yeast. They were discussing the possible purposes of life as they ate sugar and suffocated in their own excrement. Because of their limited intelligence, they never came close to guessing that they were making champagne."

    -Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
    from "Breakfast Of Champions"
    Reality is a collective hunch. -Lily Tomlin

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    What a great thread. I really enjoyed reading this. Although I'm not sure if Coleridge, or even Carroll have dominant Ni.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    Title: How Your Body Works
    From: Monty Python's Brand New Papperbok
    Transcribed By: Jonathan Partington (JRP1@PHOENIX.CAMBRIDGE.AC.UK)


    The human body is indeed a wonderful thing. Its infinitely complex way of
    functioning would take a computer, working flat out, day and night, excluding
    Bank Holidays and Christmas, 3,971 years to work out. The slightest flicker of
    the eyelid, the smallest movement of the big toe, involves such extraordinarily
    complex processes that the average man, working flat out, excluding Bank
    Holidays and Christmas, but *including* weekends, would take 84,643 light years
    to work it out. If you can imagine an Airedale terrier jumping in and out of a
    watering can once every 7 minutes for 12 years you have some idea how long that
    would take. And that's only one light year.

    Even the most simple process that the body can perform -- like paying the
    doctor -- would take a piece of asbestos over 9 billion years to work out. If
    you can imagine a man at a cocktail party congratulating the hostess on the
    avocado dip 40,000 times every second for 2 1/2 hours twice a week for 28,000
    years you can begin to realise what an extraordinarily wonderful thing the
    human body is.

    To put it even more simply, if you can imagine a doctor leaving his lucrative
    Harley St. practice to a younger partner, and cruising round the world 4 times
    a year, drinking 3 bottles of champagne with a friend's wife every afternoon,
    and writing an article on How Your Body Works once every 96 days, you'll get
    some idea of why I was struck off the register. Good evening.

    I Monty Python.

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    This is a great thread. I've just now taken the time to read through it. I envy Ni.

    Quote Originally Posted by the state i am in View Post
    "Our language can be seen as an ancient city: a maze of little streets and squares, of old and new houses, and of houses with additions from various periods; and this surrounded by a multitude of new boroughs with straight regular streets and uniform houses."
    -wittgenstein
    I don't really understand how this is Ni though. Maybe because it is using a different perspective to see that language is purely a product of man? But it's a metaphor, and I thought analogies and metaphors between two unconnected things was an Ne thing. My mind naturally makes connections like this. You Ni users can't lay claim to the one thing thing we're good at!

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    Quote Originally Posted by teslashock View Post
    This is a great thread. I've just now taken the time to read through it. I envy Ni.



    I don't really understand how this is Ni though. Maybe because it is using a different perspective to see that language is purely a product of man? But it's a metaphor, and I thought analogies and metaphors between two unconnected things was an Ne thing. My mind naturally makes connections like this. You Ni users can't lay claim to the one thing thing we're good at!
    I'm with you here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    I'm with you here.
    I think it's just an Ne-induced metaphor that appeals to Ni users because of the connection that it makes between language and another man-made product, creating the notion that language is exclusively a part of man; it's just a bunch of bits and pieces that man himself has put together over time to form one congruent whole.

    Anyway, continue with your Ni-love! Just don't steal our Ne! You guys are great enough without it.

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    The Ocean rumbles
    cracking the rocks together on shore
    confusing the sand.
    Lightening splits the water -
    The wondering sea, chaotic in beauty, faithless, harassed
    Or the loving sea, the one you float on, the one that takes you home.
    Poorly veiled and mostly happy
    The waves crash with questions
    Why do you love?
    The mist sweeps the questions back to sea unanswered


    Let's see if an ENTP calls this Ne, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    The Ocean rumbles
    cracking the rocks together on shore
    confusing the sand.
    Lightening splits the water -
    The wondering sea, chaotic in beauty, faithless, harassed
    Or the loving sea, the one you float on, the one that takes you home.
    Poorly veiled and mostly happy
    The waves crash with questions
    Why do you love?
    The mist sweeps the questions back to sea unanswered


    Let's see if an ENTP calls this Ne, too.
    I called one example Ne, and I'm still giving you Ni users a lot of credit. Don't be a ninny.

    Let's see if an ENTJ can ever satiate his thirst for power and glory enough to admit that not all brilliance is attributable to Ni/Te.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teslashock View Post
    This is a great thread. I've just now taken the time to read through it. I envy Ni.

    I don't really understand how this is Ni though. Maybe because it is using a different perspective to see that language is purely a product of man? But it's a metaphor, and I thought analogies and metaphors between two unconnected things was an Ne thing. My mind naturally makes connections like this. You Ni users can't lay claim to the one thing thing we're good at!
    wittgenstein is an infj as they come. we both do the same shit, Ni tends towards immaterial abstraction and Ne tends towards material actualization of abstraction. i think emerson is Ni and whitman is Ne.

    if you think these kinds of connections are Ni or Ne, you haven't met the right people yet. also, Ni + Ne is a total fucking revelation, so you should try it some time. very harlem globetrotter-y.

    as far as a better explanation, Ni will take an abstract relationship and superimpose it into weird areas. it will challenge you by not converting into like terms, just borrowing relationships from an infinite number of domains no matter how unclear or intelligible and just compile them as they go. Te makes it more obvious, Fe just flows, draping itself in letters and spoken poems. Ne will just scan the environment for a connection that can show something in a more concrete way, whereas we scan our interior for that relationship, so it's less grounded and more radically subjective. with Ne tho, our ideas get picked off, they see where we're going, and we both just play catch with an imaginary baseball, ridiculous diving catches, etc. for us the right thing is whatever invisible mind's eye essentialized relationship rings our relevancy circus bell the hardest.

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