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    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Ps have all variety of definitions of success. The important thing is that their definitions allow them to feel smugly superior to Js while keeping them largely out of our way. Everyone wins!
    As a P, I was not sure of the purpose of this thread until I saw this post.

    Now I feel as if the morning has been a success!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    As a P, I was not sure of the purpose of this thread until I saw this post.

    Now I feel as if the morning has been a success!!!
    I'll admit to being snarky, but would you say this assertion is without a kernel of truth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I'll admit to being snarky, but would you say this assertion is without a kernel of truth?
    Maybe a little kernel?

    (I would probably choke on a big one.)
    "Hey Capa -- We're only stardust." ~ "Sunshine"

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    Dunno. You can think that you want to do something (call it a goal?) and then be flexible and change your plan when circumstances change.

    In J's favor, the most functional J's seem to consistently review their decisions and change them if new information occurs.
    Yeah I do it that way. Although information can also be "now I don't feel like doing anything".

    BTW you can't really say which strategy is more successful. Doing things randomly and doing things sequentially can result in exactly the same number of things being done, so that the "success" would be equal.

    Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, allow me to present you with P-caricaturization-of-a-failed-J-relationship A.
    BS, being J doesn't mean one's life is dominated by working. That would just result in unhappiness and a waste of one's own life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    BS, being J doesn't mean one's life is dominated by working. That would just result in unhappiness and a waste of one's own life.
    Maybe you should read that sentence one more time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Maybe you should read that sentence one more time.
    I understood perfectly, moron. What's incompatible between the two?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    I understood perfectly, moron. What's incompatible between the two?
    I'm just going to quote this in case you delete your post.

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    Who would win in an ENTJ vs. INTJ deathmatch?
    Relationships have normal ebbs and flows. They do not automatically get better and better when the participants learn more and more about each other. Instead, the participants have to work through the tensions of the relationship (the dialectic) while they learn and group themselves and a parties in a relationships. At times the relationships is very open and sharing. Other time, one or both parties to the relationship need their space, or have other concerns, and the relationship is less open. The theory posits that these cycles occur throughout the life of the relationship as the persons try to balance their needs for privacy and open relationship.
    Interpersonal Communication Theories and Concepts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I'm just going to quote this in case you delete your post.
    Why would I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    That would make me lose my mind.
    That made me chuckle.
    I know how you feel.
    My husband is an ISTP and it took me the longest time to adjust to his P!
    What am I saying?!
    We've been married 25 years and I'm still adjusting!

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