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    Amazing, Brainheart. I can't even fathom what you've described... turning off thoughts because they don't serve a purpose? That's seriously alien to me - I'm not kidding.

    When you see that bird in the tree, what part of it makes you stoked? What are you thinking about? I'm just curious as to how it compares to my train of thought...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    Amazing, Brainheart. I can't even fathom what you've described... turning off thoughts because they don't serve a purpose? That's seriously alien to me - I'm not kidding.
    It reminds me of my grandfather's wife saying that I thought about things that "don't matter."

    S/N prejudice begins at home, boys and girls, and extends both ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    It reminds me of my grandfather's wife saying that I thought about things that "don't matter."

    S/N prejudice begins at home, boys and girls, and extends both ways.
    Are you saying that I am somehow prejudiced because I am trying to understand someone else's view?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    Are you saying that I am somehow prejudiced because I am trying to understand someone else's view?
    No, it's not about YOU. There are comments throughout the entire thread, if you care to read, about Ns being upppity or prejudiced against Ss. I was referencing the fact that Brainheart turns off thoughts that "don't serve a purpose" and it reminded me of a certain person who I hope burns in hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    Hmmm, that's an interesting question. Maybe because Ne is a perceiving function that is not concerned with the concrete world and our aux function is internal, so the top 2 functions can make our types appear to be quite introverted. Which is why Ruthie could be having a problem defining the difference between that and Si.
    I can see that.

    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    My best guess is that we Ne doms all intuit in the same way. We just gather and gather, but Fi filters out the noise by checking each piece of data by how it makes them feel. Most times it's used to construct, maintain, challenge and reassess emotional bonds. So of course, the descriptions used would seem more dreamy or esoteric in nature. So Ne+Fi could look like Ni because that forest description had a highly personal tone and evoked a strong feeling. The Ti filter is more concerned with consistency and validity, rather than connection. So the end result of Ne+Ti could look like Si in theory (but not in the specific forest description provided).
    Ok, that makes sense to me as well.


    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    But me personally? The last time I walked into a forest, the trees barely registered at all. I immediately imagined myself in a scenario where I was a survivor of a wreck and had to fend for myself. I then walked around imagining myself in scenarios where I had to kill a bear with my bare hands and build shelter in a tree. I seriously started mentally devising small game traps out of the thicket (and I'm a vegetarian). Then curiosity got the best of me and I actually tried to see if I could devise a trap, just to see if my calculations were correct - which they were. Then I snapped back into reality and realized that I was a mere mile away from home before but now I was lost and didn't pay attention to the turns I took off the trail, and it was pitch black outside now. I started to panic realizing that I just created my own scenario. I took a few moments to marvel at how meta that was. Then I tried to get out of it for real by trying to track the stars like they did in that book I read when I was a kid (who the hell knows which one - The Little Prince? The Boy Scouts handbook I stole from my brother?...) I didn't even notice the fact that I hadn't even gone 15 yards in and had just been walking around in a pathetic, panicky circle for hours in a daydreamy daze - and hadn't noticed the many clearly marked signs designating the way back to the trail. Yeah, Ne+Ti, ftw?
    Ha, that's exciting! Sounds familiar.

    I do pay close attention to sights, sounds, and smells though, very much so. I get lost in the big picture, and the tiniest of detail. I'm that person that goes around straightening pictures on a wall that are just the slightest bit off. At the same time, I "lose" the pencil behind my own ear, lock the keys in the car(frequently), and occasionally realize I've got on two different socks.

    Quote Originally Posted by brainheart View Post
    Usually on a hike I'll be primarily getting stoked on noticing a bird singing up in a tree or how the bark feels on my hand or how my breathing gets into this rhythm or I'll make sure not to step on a spider who's crossing the path.
    I can strongly relate to this. These types of experiences feel almost spiritual to me though.
    There is a thinking stuff from which all things are made, and which, in its original state, permeates, penetrates, and fills the interspaces of the universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brainheart View Post
    Usually on a hike I'll be primarily getting stoked on noticing a bird singing up in a tree or how the bark feels on my hand or how my breathing gets into this rhythm or I'll make sure not to step on a spider who's crossing the path.

    I do things like that too, especially when I'm outdoors in nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    No, it's not about YOU. There are comments throughout the entire thread, if you care to read, about Ns being upppity or prejudiced against Ss. I was referencing the fact that Brainheart turns off thoughts that "don't serve a purpose" and it reminded me of a certain person who I hope burns in hell.

    Ahhh, I read the entire thread and I don't like to feed into function bias crap, which is why I've done all these posts to demystify all of this.

    It's a shame that someone should want you to burn in hell for thinking thoughts - that sickens me. I get the same things from Fs who proclaim that I don't have feelings because I'm a T. I always ask them if they are able to think things...

    No time for isms, just keep trucking on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post

    It's a shame that someone should want you to burn in hell for thinking thoughts - that sickens me. I get the same things from Fs who proclaim that I don't have feelings because I'm a T. I always ask them if they are able to think things...
    My grandfather's wife would insult me and verbally abuse me for thinking about things that served no practical purpose to her . She told me when I was being creative that I was wasting time on "stupid shit."

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnFpFer View Post
    I do pay close attention to sights, sounds, and smells though, very much so. I get lost in the big picture, and the tiniest of detail. I'm that person that goes around straightening pictures on a wall that are just the slightest bit off. At the same time, I "lose" the pencil behind my own ear, lock the keys in the car(frequently), and occasionally realize I've got on two different socks.

    I can strongly relate to this. These types of experiences feel almost spiritual to me though.
    You probably have a strong Te.

    I never got the "feeling spiritual" thing. Can you describe that feeling in layman's terms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    You probably have a strong Te.
    Is that another way of saying OCD?

    It's not that bad though, but I do notice most things in small detail. So would that actually be Te?

    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    I never got the "feeling spiritual" thing. Can you describe that feeling in layman's terms?
    Hard to explain. I guess, for me, it's just a feeling of connecting to everything around me. Feeling really small in the midst of it all. Being in awe of everything, like a child discovering the world for the first time again. It's the realization that I'm largely unimportant in the grand scheme of things, but still a part of the bigger picture-which I find to be incredible in the smallest parts of the whole that I'm actually capable of grasping with my mind in the present.
    There is a thinking stuff from which all things are made, and which, in its original state, permeates, penetrates, and fills the interspaces of the universe.

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