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sp/sx vs sx/sp

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i can't figure out my type. i don't take risks in relationships, but in terms of how i tell myself my own story, i feel far more turbulent and desperately in need of intense connection.

i say i am in love with art but i might be more in love with the idea of art. sp/sx seems more zen and more mystical, which is me. but sx/sp seems more epic push-pull in relationships, which is maybe an exaggeration. i'm a 5w4. i don't aggressively pursue, and i become sharp and edgy somewhat frequently, showing my claws. but i don't cut ties easily. i will just disappear. but if i do not resurface i am simply not alive.

i want my story to be art. i feel ill if i imagine a straight and narrow life, yet i am afraid of getting stuck in something worse (more traditional). suffocating my hope and energy and vitality. i want to explore myself and master myself and master the universe. i want to absorb everything. i want to expand infinitely. i want to be challenged, but i feel like i must be the best at everything. this exhausts me and causes cognitive dissonance. i may not believe that any one person has my answers, my solution, or my salvation. i gave that up somewhere in my early twenties, i misplaced it or lost it under the pillow when the tooth fairy never came. the flame comes back but without the totalizing faith of unquestioned belief.

but i'm always wanting. and art has sustained me more than anything else. the significant relationships i have had have rebuilt me into a person, out of the fragmentary pieces of experience and thought i previously had been. they are like chemical elements and processes that evoke me out of myself, that materialize and actualize my latent potential. they help turn me into real and actual substance out of the ethereal mind/spirit which is me.

i don't identify myself as self-destructive in many ways. i feel strongly iconoclastic in that my vision is very important to me, i get really judgy when it comes to aesthetic choices. i am staunchly myself when it involves something i care about. yet i don't share my vision with very many people. i am not aggressive or assertive, but i have been told i am very intense and seem very focused. on that set i might be a total dictator. i never liked to share the toys in the toybox. if i am self-destructive it is total gluttony, high anxiety, and periodic nihilistic mornings and evenings. it is stress that becomes borderline incapacitating, yet never incapacitating. it is also a lack of much-needed responsibility.

my biggest fear is growing bored or being trapped in a situation that is no longer exciting. one in which the attitudes and ideas of the group drown out my own. fuck the group, i'd rather make my own mark by myself. i have a strong tendency to withdraw, but i have an intense desire for connection at all times. yet i do fear being overexposed and vulnerable. everything must be real to me, but i have obviously experienced stunted growth in aspects of social development. yet you could never tell, bc you would like me. i can be very charming. but, if not on my terms, and not with a bit of information gathering first, very nervously so (especially if i care what you think/feel about me).

i identify with the home-space of sp/sx in that whenever i've lived alone, visitors have always commented on how much the space felt like me, felt safe and inviting, etc. yet i have had ex's comment that they have had to look away bc my intensity made them become shy.

i have been in few relationships but when i have been alone, i sound like kierkegaard praying for divine intervention. yet i've been alone most of my life. altho a large part of this was untangling my fucked up ideals and an awful mish-mash of christian indoctrination and 5w4 (a la emily dickinson) trump card forays into total darkness, that took time to balance the scales (and tip them over, in my case).

i am so obviously one-to-one over any other form of interaction. when conversing i probe others with great intensity, trying to get to their essence. i want to know them and know what makes them tick. this is the entirety of their interest to me.
 

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it is also a lack of much-needed responsibility.

Could you elaborate on this part? Do you mean because you are often alone, you do not have a large amount of social responsibility to friends, spouses, kids, etc.? Or are you talking about work/career/job responsibility?

Your current avatar seems symbolic of a search for self.
 

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Could you elaborate on this part? Do you mean because you are often alone, you do not have a large amount of social responsibility to friends, spouses, kids, etc.? Or are you talking about work/career/job responsibility?

Your current avatar seems symbolic of a search for self.

oh i just mean when you begin to accept responsibility for your own self-preservation, your own future, your own moods and behavior, your own bills to pay, your own practical tasks that must get done, your own social engagement with others, etc, you go a long way towards getting your shit together and becoming a real person.

i think part of it is the pressure to get a real job that will sustain me. the whole "wasted potential" thing, bc my interests are somewhat obtuse and float along like the breeze. plus all the constant loafing (to replenish my energies).
 

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sx/sp

This is perhaps the most internally conflicted of the stackings, and potentially the most inconsistent in behavior. This may occur as a blockage of the sexual instinct which can be redirected as a more generally brooding and troubled personality. They may isolate themselves for long periods of time before reemerging. They live according to a strictly personal outlook and are not particularly concerned with the approval of others outside of their immediate concern. They seem to be searching for something, the missing piece. If they find a soulmate they will unite without fanfare, forming a secret bond, dealing with formalities as an afterthought. Powerful sexual impulses facing inner resistance may manifest symbolically in the psyche, giving way to soulful interpretations of the unconscious. Under periods of stress severe sexual tensions may manifest as erratic, impulsively destructive behavior. Can seem restless, torn between the comforts of a stable home life and the urge to wander. May be prone to self-medicating.

Motivation: to know the heart, reconcile inner conflict, form a secure union.

Familiar roles: the devotee, the seeker, the wanderer

Examples of sx/sp: Prince, Carl Jung, Johnny Depp, Ozzy Osbourne, Johnny Cash, Joan Crawford, Princess Di, Marilyn Monroe, Janis Joplin, Frollo from "Hunchback of Notre Dame"

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sp/sx

These people often have an earthy, mysterious quality to them. They are quietly intense, but to others may seem oblivious to the greater social world around them, instead favoring personal interests. They are slow to commit, but once they do it is with an attitude of life commitment, to the establishment of an impermeable bond. Others can be taken aback by how suddenly and completely this type can lock into them, and by the depth of understanding of the other's condition. They attach to others at an organic, root level, in contrast to the other subvariant's surface formality. Somewhat hesitant to enter new relationships, they instead preserve the select few enduring bonds they carefully form along the way. The sanctuary of home is of paramount concern, and this type takes particular delight in decorating their spaces to reflect their cherished sense of taste and depth. Depth and discrimination characterize this stacking.

Motivation: to live in a secure, comfortable environment where they can pursue their private interests in depth.

Familiar Roles: the mate, the mystic, the quiet supporter.

Examples: George Harrison, Jackie Onassis, Eric Clapton, Emily Dickinson

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You seem more sx/sp to me, just because of how you come to realizations. You seem to be very good at analyzing your unconscious thought processes to provide unique insight. This insight is towards type, people in general, situations etc. You seem pretty people oriented, yet not social, which is classic sx/sp.
 

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my biggest fear is growing bored or being trapped in a situation that is no longer exciting. one in which the attitudes and ideas of the group drown out my own. fuck the group, i'd rather make my own mark by myself. i have a strong tendency to withdraw, but i have an intense desire for connection at all times. yet i do fear being overexposed and vulnerable. everything must be real to me, but i have obviously experienced stunted growth in aspects of social development. yet you could never tell, bc you would like me. i can be very charming. but, if not on my terms, and not with a bit of information gathering first, very nervously so (especially if i care what you think/feel about me).

Oh, this is so me. I think this is why I am able to note mini-cycles in my life -- like, I know by now that every couple of years I become ancy and bored with things if I've been doing the same thing/have been in the same situation the entire time, without much change. I feel stagnant by that point, and need to once again figure out how to extricate myself or make changes to shake things up once again and stimulate myself on whatever level I'm lacking.

I was really socially/emotionally 'stunted' as a teenager. In my early 20's I truly felt I had the social awareness/experience of someone 5-10 yrs younger than me. Took a while to catch up, I'm still not quite sure I've totally 'caught up'. :laugh: But I do seem to effortlessly get along with people, at least on a superficial level, so I am 'likable' in that sense. It's the deeper context that doesn't happen often - for various reasons, but I think we've talked about it before.

i identify with the home-space of sp/sx in that whenever i've lived alone, visitors have always commented on how much the space felt like me, felt safe and inviting, etc. yet i have had ex's comment that they have had to look away bc my intensity made them become shy.

I didn't realize home-space/decor had anything to do with sp/sx, but it's funny because I've gotten the comment from my friends at how 'cozy'/inviting/comfy/'ME' my place is. But I do that on purpose - I want my place to reflect me because I want the ambience to bring me peace. Ambience is extremely important to me.

I don't know much at all about distinctions between sp/sx/so -- so can't answer any of that. Those 2 things just popped out at me & I wanted to comment, haha.

Blackcat's descriptions, though....I'm so sp/sx. But then I've always tested 'sp'...and makes total sense given my life and approach at relationships. I'm definitely more hesitant to enter - more deliberating, more observant, more cautious, more self-protective (ha) -- but once in, I'm SO in, and the self-protective element almost completely vanishes, and I become really open and much more vulnerable/raw.
 

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blackcat, i identify more with the generic sx/sp description over sp/sx, and i probably do a bit more with the 5 description of sx/sp over sp/sx. but i'm not sure if it's bc i want to, bc the idea of sp would be less exciting to me.

i am not only hesitant to enter relationships, i also am hesitant to commit 100%. but i do think it has had more to do with the formalities i don't get and the 5w4 issues than a lack of desire to merge, connect, intensely get to know, and i'm still young in relationships and going thru comparatively adolescent growing pains.

my behavior looks way more sp/sx than sx. yet my internal experiences and subjective impressions make me feel or want to feel sx/sp more than sp/sx. i have never felt content, i hate silence, i can rarely just slow down and float along, i feel like i am always furiously working on something unless i'm heavily invested socially and drinking all the time. or in a relationship, in which case i will spend almost all of my time together or processing. i don't relate to the need for alone time as much as i thought i would for a 5w4 sp/sx, i will consistently choose to spend time together. my only conflict with this is that sometimes i am beat and fussy, or if we do not connect and it is not energized i get really really frustrated. i ALWAYS want to communicate, connect, etc.

i do not like to just be near others, i want to CONNECT or i want to be alone or i want to be anonymous in a large group.

i worry about the future a lot, but that has more to do with my total lack of follow-thru and my resistance at doing the things i OUGHT to do to solve my worries. i am sooo resistant on career choices that will impinge on my freedom and make me feel stale, old, fake, going thru the motions, inauthentic, etc. i want to explore myself and not just grow but expand, i want to intensify myself and say vibrant and creative and inquisitive. i want to work on what i want to work on!

the home is important to me, as are creature comforts, and i am especially in love with food and advanced culinary treats. i have an insatiable appetite. i used to play sports and was very competitive, and feel far more physical than most infjs. i can never exercise or take care of myself consistently, but i can binge and purge on health and fitness pretty fast and feel like i was 18 in a month or two (think you high metabolism!). i do feel like i burn pretty strongly for an sp, but my behavior looks so sp with the horrifying indecision and lack of risk-taking. i imagine sx to take serious risks all the time and especially when on the verge. i've never even had a serious drug habit! (altho that is bc i avoid situations where my addictive personality could come back to bite me in the ass).

i'm not sure if sx is partly where my constant discontent growing up stems from. and the incompleteness of knowledge and identity (5w4). i worry about the future and i am mature in many many ways, but it is a wisdom that is still incapable of tying its own shoes. or doesn't want to have to learn and grow old. i liked emily dickinson signing her name emilie when she was afraid she was becoming too old and boring. without intense connection with others i can not imagine living and being remotely anything- i'd be so depressed. it is what renews me, a well to dive into and come back refreshed. feel energized and alive. if i did not have to worry more about my own personal responsibility and meeting the obligations of the world there's no fucking way i would. i don't care about those things, but i do worry about them.

in my prioritization of decisions, a significant and meaningful moment/connection/experience always trumps responsibility and logic. i am very inconsistent and erratic at day-to-day discipline, living, etc. when enthralled i can't sleep bc i am so excited. but i am VERY conscientious and FREQUENTLY consider worst case scenarios that would threaten my security and certainty.
 

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I was really socially/emotionally 'stunted' as a teenager. In my early 20's I truly felt I had the social awareness/experience of someone 5-10 yrs younger than me. Took a while to catch up, I'm still not quite sure I've totally 'caught up'. :laugh: But I do seem to effortlessly get along with people, at least on a superficial level, so I am 'likable' in that sense. It's the deeper context that doesn't happen often - for various reasons, but I think we've talked about it before.

i have had it happen for me many times throughout my life, or maybe i just attribute a few to be pretty good. but no matter what i immediately start challenging it, after the fact, and want better/even better. i always want more complete connection, more perfection. there is a line from the film waking life where they talk about the holy moment.

i am torn between the solitary isolated mysticism of sp/sx and the intense earthly energy/desire of sx/sp. i float along for significant periods of time, but i am hyper-aware of all members of the opposite sex.

also, at times i identify with the iggy pop song search and destroy. but as a 5w4 i always feel more self-contained. more self-aware, from an external perspective or knowledge, of what is possible.

i feel exactly halfway in between.
 

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i have had it happen for me many times throughout my life, or maybe i just attribute a few to be pretty good. but no matter what i immediately start challenging it, after the fact, and want better/even better. i always want more complete connection, more perfection. there is a line from the film waking life where they talk about the holy moment.

i am torn between the solitary isolated mysticism of sp/sx and the intense earthly energy/desire of sx/sp. i float along for significant periods of time, but i am hyper-aware of all members of the opposite sex.

also, at times i identify with the iggy pop song search and destroy. but as a 5w4 i always feel more self-contained. more self-aware, from an external perspective or knowledge, of what is possible.

i feel exactly halfway in between.

It may be that I've had such *amazing* connections with a handful of people (and still do), where I feel understood on pretty much all levels....and so those become my 'standard', as such...and then since I know it's possible for me to find these connections, and I know they exist, anything lesser becomes kind of unsatisfying, to be perfectly honest. It's not that I am unable to find value in these other interactions, rather it's the knowledge of what IS possible, and I am able to compare/contrast. Even though I'm sp, I do crave deep connections with others, and without feeling connected, I become rather unhappy. But being alone is definitely preferable to being with any random person who I don't really click with. So it's definitely not being around people in general - it's a specific interaction I seek.

As to solitary mysticism vs. earthly desire, using just that terminology, I also desire a mix of both. I mean, I'm super into experiences as well....being active physically, pushing myself out of my comfort zone experience-wise, even some activities that some think are more 'dangerous' or risky, I embrace and really enjoy. Plus I have such a sensory appreciation for many aspects of life, and without those elements I wouldn't be terribly balanced. But even with all of that...I think my 'neutral' level, or baseline, or essence, is that more isolated, observant, analytical, contemplative, solitary one.
 

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what do you think about this? Enneagram Central - Enneagram Style Five

it includes links on the left to check out 5 subtypes.

i have had a handful of connections that were extremely significant to me where i learned huge HUGE lessons from people who were teachers and healers and helpers and also best friends, but then i know what you mean about the total transparency, and i think it's why we both seem to appreciate dominant intuitives. specific ennegram types also really intrigue me, i always love other 5w4, 4w5, and 7w6, and i usually love 4w3 and 9w1.

i feel more sx in that i have always been EXTREMELY demanding of others, especially when in relationships. is this more sx/sp? what are your experiences with this?
 

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i feel more sx in that i have always been EXTREMELY demanding of others, especially when in relationships. is this more sx/sp? what are your experiences with this?

Demanding in what way? As in expressing your desires/expectations (ug, I hate that word, but I'll keep it in)/needs, and being more dominant/aggressive/extroverted regarding that?

I have never viewed myself as being demanding in relationships; but depending on what you mean by that, maybe I am. :whistling:

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As to the link, I related to much of the sp type, although not specifically the 'Hermit' piece. I would make a really lousy hermit. :) The sx link didn't seem to have as much information/juice to it, so I don't think I can really comment on it...suffice it to say, it didn't speak to me all that much.
 

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expectations, yes. my intj s.o. would say, "he wants what he wants when he wants it." this is our only source of conflict. she is a 6w7 sp/so (i think) and is much more diffuse. i am the picky and difficult and fickle one, who demands things sometimes before considering the implications. i'm sure there are many examples but attention would be one. she would never call me an especially tolerant person, tho i've gotten way less judgy than i used to be. it has required effort and attention tho. i feel like i have always been willing to say no pretty fucking quickly. my poor infp 9w1 mom sometimes is so nervous on holidays bc it will not exactly be the way the state i am in wants it (the thanksgiving dinner, i mean).
 

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Hmm...I don't know that I am particularly demanding in that sense. I do think years and years ago I was much less tolerant, and was called on it a few times, and since then have probably gone too far in the other direction...over time any tendency like that has become more muted such that it isn't a kneejerk reaction like it might have been, or I've covered it up with so many other layers/thought processes that it often never sees the light of day.

But, ya know, I don't know that I'm in a position to be super objective about this; this would be something my parents or brother would have a much more interesting handle on. :) And it's been so long since I've been in a relationship that I can't comment on how I end up being after many months of intimacy, once most of my layers have been removed.
 

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my unwieldiness was the primary conflict for my family growing up. i would not bend. close friends were infp 9w1s who would smooth over my "ascerbicness" (more than one friend described me as this). and i would have pretty hard do not cross this line moments where i would say something outrageous about what was a deserved judgment on someone based on a single situation or response.

yet i would not be particularly aggressive or assertive, i would just completely reject and withdraw. or if in the context of a discussion with people i knew i could be quite arrogant. i've learned to play much better with others, but i still have more of a desire to be in front of everyone else than to slink into the background. yet my interaction style requires more slinking and observing before i can take charge. but i do want to take charge (i think). i still want to assert myself and outdo everyone else. or be deeply/profoundly recognized by others.

i feel like that says much. at times i just really have a strong desire to be recognized with great energy, attention, focus. this is a very significant aspect to my personality, one that i consistently want/strive for/chase.
 

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Thanks for the additional info. In that case, I don't think it was a notable trait of mine growing up, as I don't recall it being brought to my attention by my family, and I didn't really have close friends to speak of. I was much more hermit-like growing up (although not happy about my state), pretty much 100% introverted...I didn't have the social/emotional skills to know how to get really close to people until my early to mid 20's, and tended towards conflict-avoidance rather than pushing my own cause.

I think you're certainly more sx-leaning than myself, as I don't think I have as strong a desire to push myself forward and be out front, but in general I still relate to quite a lot of what you write. Like I said in my first post though, I'm *definitely* not the one to make any sort of call on sx vs. sp. Agree w/ you though when you say that this aspect of yours probably says a lot, esp. since you view it as a significant aspect of who you are.
 

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i grew up in social situations bc i always played team sports. i always had a few friends throughout school. it wasn't until high school where i became a recluse for a while (tho still while continuing to play team sports). i just didn't like many of the kids i saw day-in-day-out bc it was all sf and especially st kids. and mostly e. with that said i had a close friend throughout the entire process and could always make a few friends during school. eventually i settled into a pretty good N group of kids, altho still feeling like an outsider somewhat/ d i s t a n c e.

did you constantly have a crush on at least one person pretty much your entire life?
 

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did you constantly have a crush on at least one person pretty much your entire life?

I had crushes now and then while in school, but I don't view them as a defining element of my life. Post-school, it hasn't been often at all that I've run into someone I've really been drawn to, so my crushes/loves have been very few and far between. However when I actually DO meet someone I fall for, I am so happy - as it's something I'm always seeking and hoping for. But, that last piece obviously isn't type-related...that would be something that applies to pretty much everyone.
 

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I'm sx/sp. I don't know how that compares with sp/sx, but I've seen it summed up as "One-Man Storm" which fits nicely, I think. :D

ETA: Would looking at which you are first (either sx or sp), help? For me sp takes a backseat to all things sx.
 

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I bolded the stuff I strongly identified with, struck the stuff I didn't identify with at all, the rest mostly related to me:

sx/sp

This is perhaps the most internally conflicted of the stackings, and potentially the most inconsistent in behavior. This may occur as a blockage of the sexual instinct which can be redirected as a more generally brooding and troubled personality. They may isolate themselves for long periods of time before reemerging. They live according to a strictly personal outlook and are not particularly concerned with the approval of others outside of their immediate concern. They seem to be searching for something, the missing piece. If they find a soulmate they will unite without fanfare, forming a secret bond, dealing with formalities as an afterthought. Powerful sexual impulses facing inner resistance may manifest symbolically in the psyche, giving way to soulful interpretations of the unconscious. Under periods of stress severe sexual tensions may manifest as erratic, impulsively destructive behavior. Can seem restless, torn between the comforts of a stable home life and the urge to wander. May be prone to self-medicating.



sp/sx

These people often have an earthy, mysterious quality to them. They are quietly intense, but to others may seem oblivious to the greater social world around them, instead favoring personal interests. They are slow to commit, but once they do it is with an attitude of life commitment, to the establishment of an impermeable bond. Others can be taken aback by how suddenly and completely this type can lock into them, and by the depth of understanding of the other's condition. They attach to others at an organic, root level, in contrast to the other subvariant's surface formality. Somewhat hesitant to enter new relationships, they instead preserve the select few enduring bonds they carefully form along the way. The sanctuary of home is of paramount concern, and this type takes particular delight in decorating their spaces to reflect their cherished sense of taste and depth. Depth and discrimination characterize this stacking.

I guess sx/sp? I always thought sp/sx.
 

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it's good to see all the INFJ's participating, since I think sx/sp crosses over various types rather than being confined to one (i.e., an sx/sp ESTP, if one exist, would probably expressed differently than INFJ... and note that the systems are all sort of overlapping so perhaps that description sounds a little non-sensical from a purely theoretical standpoint but is still probably useful in some way in what it suggests).

For reference, for a large part of my life I was sp and sx but i wasn't sure if sp came first.... because I was very very withdrawn and liked my autonomy, yet I had a lot of social pressures conspiring on me to keep me wanting to withdraw and put up the walls. Once I dealt with all that garbage, it was pretty easy to see that the sx aspect was easily the strongest and explained a lot of the inner turmoil I had all those years... the drive to connect intimately and deeply and quickly with people of "life essence" but the fearful self-protective behaviors constantly making me feel like i should be backpedaling. Still, the sx was obviously the focal drive, something I am very aware of now.

most of your comments were more of INFJ flavor and I couldn't totally identify, but this part I did:

i feel more sx in that i have always been EXTREMELY demanding of others, especially when in relationships. is this more sx/sp? what are your experiences with this?

I am not at ALL demanding in certain areas -- I am very open to people being who they are in terms of personality and I do not try to control them or boss them around or anything such as that -- where my demandingness comes out is that I expect people to always want to become better, be curious, and learn (in general).... I do not really well suffer self-determined fools, I will pull back from them after losing my patience.

And the same goes for people who do not match my sx "go for depth" style. If after I've put myself out there and I sense someone will not reciprocate, I just stop. I don't like "casual" relationships very much, although I tolerate them as realistic and necessary. I won't tell people what to do, they have to make up their own minds; but I know that i want to know them, and know them deeply and honestly, and that I'm 'safe' and am accepting of who they are and convey that by usually putting myself out there first; and if they are going to cover up, lie, or put walls up to impede depth, I bail very quickly. In these two areas (desire for increasing knowledge/maturity, and willingness to be open/intimate), I am tacitly demanding.


sx/sp

This is perhaps the most internally conflicted of the stackings, and potentially the most inconsistent in behavior. This may occur as a blockage of the sexual instinct which can be redirected as a more generally brooding and troubled personality. They may isolate themselves for long periods of time before reemerging.
They live according to a strictly personal outlook and are not particularly concerned with the approval of others outside of their immediate concern. They seem to be searching for something, the missing piece. If they find a soulmate they will unite without fanfare, forming a secret bond, dealing with formalities as an afterthought. Powerful sexual impulses facing inner resistance may manifest symbolically in the psyche, giving way to soulful interpretations of the unconscious. Under periods of stress severe sexual tensions may manifest as erratic, impulsively destructive behavior. Can seem restless, torn between the comforts of a stable home life and the urge to wander. May be prone to self-medicating.

Motivation: to know the heart, reconcile inner conflict, form a secure union.


Familiar roles: the devotee, the seeker, the wanderer
 

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sx/sp

This is perhaps the most internally conflicted of the stackings, and potentially the most inconsistent in behavior. This may occur as a blockage of the sexual instinct which can be redirected as a more generally brooding and troubled personality. They may isolate themselves for long periods of time before reemerging. They live according to a strictly personal outlook and are not particularly concerned with the approval of others outside of their immediate concern. They seem to be searching for something, the missing piece. If they find a soulmate they will unite without fanfare, forming a secret bond, dealing with formalities as an afterthought. Powerful sexual impulses facing inner resistance may manifest symbolically in the psyche, giving way to soulful interpretations of the unconscious. Under periods of stress severe sexual tensions may manifest as erratic, impulsively destructive behavior. Can seem restless, torn between the comforts of a stable home life and the urge to wander. May be prone to self-medicating.

Motivation: to know the heart, reconcile inner conflict, form a secure union.

Familiar roles: the devotee, the seeker, the wanderer

Examples of sx/sp: Prince, Carl Jung, Johnny Depp, Ozzy Osbourne, Johnny Cash, Joan Crawford, Princess Di, Marilyn Monroe, Janis Joplin, Frollo from "Hunchback of Notre Dame"

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sp/sx

These people often have an earthy, mysterious quality to them. They are quietly intense, but to others may seem oblivious to the greater social world around them, instead favoring personal interests. They are slow to commit, but once they do it is with an attitude of life commitment, to the establishment of an impermeable bond. Others can be taken aback by how suddenly and completely this type can lock into them, and by the depth of understanding of the other's condition. They attach to others at an organic, root level, in contrast to the other subvariant's surface formality. Somewhat hesitant to enter new relationships, they instead preserve the select few enduring bonds they carefully form along the way. The sanctuary of home is of paramount concern, and this type takes particular delight in decorating their spaces to reflect their cherished sense of taste and depth. Depth and discrimination characterize this stacking.

Motivation: to live in a secure, comfortable environment where they can pursue their private interests in depth.

Familiar Roles: the mate, the mystic, the quiet supporter.

Examples: George Harrison, Jackie Onassis, Eric Clapton, Emily Dickinson

Ohh, good descriptions, thanks for posting those BC. I can relate to both, but I think I favor sp/sx.
 
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