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    I was listening to Smashing Pumpkins today and I realized just how Fi+Ne this song is:

    [YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktff3bZpux8"]Bullet With Butterfly Wings[/YOUTUBE]
    (The whole song is about trying to be genuine and being internally frustrated by the world's expectations.)

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    I was listening to noisy jackhammers today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    I was listening to noisy jackhammers today.
    Jaguar, your signature is paradoxical, as it is the result of another person's thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystic Tater View Post
    Jaguar, your signature is paradoxical, as it is the result of another person's thinking.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystic Tater View Post
    (The whole song is about trying to be genuine and being internally frustrated by the world's expectations.)
    I agree; the whole of Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness seems Fi. However, the main overall theme is authenticity in an age of postmodernism. This is seen visually in the artwork for the double-album: it is more traditional in style. (I'm not sure what to call it, but I'm sure that style of art has a name.) Also, the band's video for "Tonight, Tonight" hearkens back to the first (supposedly) science fiction film, searching for authentic historical roots.

    Taking a look at the songs, much of the language literally points to this authenticity and some of the lyrics are more symbollic:

    tonight, tonight
    "and our lives are forever changed
    we will never be the same
    the more you change the less you feel
    believe, believe in me, believe
    that life can change, that you're not stuck in vain
    we're not the same, we're different tonight."

    jellybelly
    "you're nowhere, you're nowhere, you're nowhere to be
    nowhere, you're nowhere, you're nowhere to see
    there's nothing left to do
    there's nothing left to feel"

    zero
    "emptiness is loneliness, and loneliness is cleanliness
    and cleanliness is godliness, adn god is empty just like me"

    here is no why
    "a hidden diamond you cannot find
    a secret start that cannot shine over to you"

    bullet with butterfly wings
    "and what do you want, I want to change
    and what have you got
    when you feel the same"

    to forgive
    "holding back the fool again
    holding back the fool pretends
    i forget to forget nothing is important
    holding back teh fool again"

    F you [an ode to no one]
    "I disconnect the act
    I disconnect the dots
    I disconnect the me in me"

    "and you make it so real
    I don't need your love to disconnect"

    love
    "it's what you wanted to see, it's who you wanted to be
    for what you needed to need, she'll make it up"

    cupid de locke
    "and barren hearted wanderers
    forever lost in forsaken missives and satan's pull"

    galapogos
    "and rescue me from me, and al that I believe"

    "and tell me I am still
    the man I'm supposed to be"

    muzzle
    "I fear that I am ordinary, just like everyone"

    porcelina of the vast oceans
    "and in my mind I'm everyone"

    "hidden thoughts and alibis
    my secret thoughts come alive"

    take me down
    "take my hand, I lost where I began"

    where boys fear to tread
    "just maybe we could lose ourselves this time"

    bodies
    "the empty bodies stand at rest
    casualties of their own flesh
    afflicted by their dispossession"

    thirty-three
    "speak to me in a language I can hear"

    "the earth laughs beneath my heavy feet
    at the blasphemy in my old jangly walk
    steeple guide me to my heart and home"

    1979
    "no apologies ever need be made, I know you betteer than you fake it"

    tales of a scorched earth
    "I lie just to be real, and I'd die just to feel
    why do the same old things keep on happening?
    because beyond my hopes there are no feelings"

    thru the eyes of ruby
    "my love for you ust can't explain
    why we're forever frozen, forever beautiful
    forever lost inside ourselves"

    I never noticed this before, but this passage is very 4-ish:

    "but belief is not to notice, belief is just some faith
    and faith can't help you to escape"

    The 4 needs to notice their physical surroundings, the inside of their body, and wake up to the moment in order to escape their world of fantasy (and the past) and move to 1.

    stumbleine
    "and what you never knew
    can never get to you
    so fake it"

    x.y.u.
    "she didn't wanna be, she didn't wana know"

    "I couldn't feel her, and it was just a game..."

    we only come out at night
    "and once again, you'll pretend to know me well, my friends
    and once again, I'll pretend to know the way
    thru the empty space
    thru the secret places of the heart"

    beautiful
    "and I can't help but feel attached
    to the feelings I can't even match"

    by starlight
    "my life has been empty, my life has been untrue
    and does she really know, who I really am?
    does she really know me at last
    dead eyes, are you just like me?"

    farewell and goodnight
    "and keep you from the loneliness of yourself
    heart strung is your heart frayed and empty
    cause it's hard luck, when no one understands your love
    it's unsung..."

    "goodnight, always, you all that's pure that's in your heart"

    It's amazing how many times throughout the album Corgan comes right out and uses the word "feelings" right there in the lyrics. A gloss-over may mistake the use of the word for romantic love only, but it also stands for Romantic with a big "R" and being filled with feeling, i.e. being authenic.
    "How can I be, all I want to be,
    When all I want to do is strip away these stilled constraints
    And crush this charade, shred this sad, masquerade"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGeq5v7L3WM

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    I'm pretty sure this is Ni or Ti:


    The Network - Spastic Society - Free MP3 Stream on IMEEM Music

    Candy cane
    Null set
    Credit card

    Prescription
    Nitrogen

    Now we're living in a...

    Definition
    Visual aid
    Air condition

    (Publicate everything!)

    Automatic
    Autostatic

    Now we're living in a
    Spastic Void! (x3)

    Synthesize
    Paralyze
    Glass eye

    (Dividing Everything)

    Cellophane
    Aeroplane

    Now we're living in a...

    Catalyst
    Saccharine
    Incomplete

    Cavity
    Decompress

    Now we're living in a
    Spastic Void! (x3)

    Aluminum
    Paper cut
    Centerfold

    (Perfecting everything)

    Pernicious
    And vicious
    Acetate

    (Correcting everything)

    Perfection
    Hideous
    Infection

    Now we're living in a

    Disinfect
    Satellite
    Disconnect
    Goodnight

    Now we're living in a
    Spastic SOCIETY.

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