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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Be yourself, it's better to get along naturally with somebody rather than changing your style in order not to create friction. If your interaction with us is problematic, well, probably we know it and we'll both be better off avoiding each other.


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    And this is where I think Fe deviates from Te. I don't mind talking to people for the hell of it. Interesting for me is variable.

    You missed your bus? That sucks! When's the next one coming?
    You hate your job? Me too! Misery loves company. Let's go get a drink!
    You broke all the bones in your ankle? What in the world where you doing? I like your RoboBoot, it's nice for kicking aggravating people in the shins.

    I find people interesting and the conversation will evolve from there.
    Relationships have normal ebbs and flows. They do not automatically get better and better when the participants learn more and more about each other. Instead, the participants have to work through the tensions of the relationship (the dialectic) while they learn and group themselves and a parties in a relationships. At times the relationships is very open and sharing. Other time, one or both parties to the relationship need their space, or have other concerns, and the relationship is less open. The theory posits that these cycles occur throughout the life of the relationship as the persons try to balance their needs for privacy and open relationship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    And this is where I think Fe deviates from Te. I don't mind talking to people for the hell of it. Interesting for me is variable.
    Lol. Relating takes too much energy for me to spend much of it on boring people.
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    Anyway, if the purpose of the thread is something on the line of: if you like an EJ/are friends with one, what do you have to avoid doing not to piss him-her off? Then my two cents are - valid only for my person - don't change plans, especially not in the 30 minutes before we had planned to do something. There's nothing that pissess me off as much as that (I'm fine if you tell me the day before, I'll find something else to do).
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    I don't think ENTJ's are as intimidating as you think.

    Just because you don't understand the intricacies of international finance, or the search for the Higgs Boson at the Large Hadron Collider doesn't mean you have nothing to contribute to a conversation with an ENTJ.

    We may know about things you don't, but you know about things we don't. For instance, I don't really know how to plan out and buy groceries. I'm super busy and just end up going to psuedo fast food places like moe's and panera.

    I don't know how to get a vinegar stain out of carpet. I don't know how to do a lot of things that many people see as common sense.

    It's kind of like imagining the audience in their underwear. Just realize that while the ENTJ may have a vast archive of mental knowledge about things you don't, they may just have trouble tying their shoes in the morning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    I don't think ENTJ's are as intimidating as you think.

    Just because you don't understand the intricacies of international finance, or the search for the Higgs Boson at the Large Hadron Collider doesn't mean you have nothing to contribute to a conversation with an ENTJ.

    We may know about things you don't, but you know about things we don't. For instance, I don't really know how to plan out and buy groceries. I'm super busy and just end up going to psuedo fast food places like moe's and panera.

    I don't know how to get a vinegar stain out of carpet. I don't know how to do a lot of things that many people see as common sense.

    It's kind of like imagining the audience in their underwear. Just realize that while the ENTJ may have a vast archive of mental knowledge about things you don't, they may just have trouble tying their shoes in the morning!

    This really looks like you think non ENTJs know nothing other than cleaning and cooking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justxher View Post
    This really looks like you think non ENTJs know nothing other than cleaning and cooking. "laugh"
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    Eh, the major issues I've had with Dom Fe has been with people who actually have issues. My ESFJ paternal grandmother is one of my favourite family members. I don't think I've had much interaction with ESTJs, though there are two ENTJs I've had some issues with that seem to be easily explained away with immaturity.
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    I give up all attempt. EJ are monsters, they (we) should be electrocuted, tortured, waterboarded, etc. so that other more forgiving and nice characters (everyone else) may roam in the planet.

    After all, IJ, IP and EP are sooooo nice, they can afford to nuke and skin EJ's alive.

    'Nuff said.
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    Yeah, I don't know why but I went eff it with this thread yesterday.
    Relationships have normal ebbs and flows. They do not automatically get better and better when the participants learn more and more about each other. Instead, the participants have to work through the tensions of the relationship (the dialectic) while they learn and group themselves and a parties in a relationships. At times the relationships is very open and sharing. Other time, one or both parties to the relationship need their space, or have other concerns, and the relationship is less open. The theory posits that these cycles occur throughout the life of the relationship as the persons try to balance their needs for privacy and open relationship.
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