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    Quote Originally Posted by justxher View Post
    I need to be stimulated somehow in the conversation or else I will just sit there and want to scratch my eyes out.

    Why would I want to talk to someone if I felt we were wasting each others time?
    Well you don't have to talk to 'em, just politely excuse yourself from their lunacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    Well of course you need to be stimulated. So what you mean by someone "having something to offer" is just them being interesting and you perhaps learning something or the conversation being meaningful? I've picked up on this from you ENTJs as I've talked to you, just verifying.
    Yeah... pretty much. The thing is that we prefer direct communication so even if you have a really interesting point to make but make it with really wordy language and lots subtlety, we might just tune out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    Well you don't have to talk to 'em, just politely excuse yourself from their lunacy.
    HAH lunacy..

    I know, I was only answering the question!

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    Quote Originally Posted by justxher View Post
    HAH lunacy..

    I know, I was only answering the question!
    She got me.... (silly death walk)

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    i like plans....
    i really enjoy my ESFJ, ESTJ, ISTJ, ISFJ (--oh gosh! SJs!!! ) friends because they are ok with "5pm tommorow I'll call you and we'll go do ______" and they'll stick with the plan.

    I know others who are so go with the flow that if they are not "RIGHT THERE RIGHT NOW!" they will completely blow off other plans

    ...so....dont be anti plan!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babylon Candle View Post
    i like plans....
    i really enjoy my ESFJ, ESTJ, ISTJ, ISFJ (--oh gosh! SJs!!! ) friends because they are ok with "5pm tommorow I'll call you and we'll go do ______" and they'll stick with the plan.

    I know others who are so go with the flow that if they are not "RIGHT THERE RIGHT NOW!" they will completely blow off other plans

    ...so....dont be anti plan!
    OMG yes! This bugs me soooooooooo much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justxher View Post
    I need to be stimulated somehow in the conversation or else I will just sit there and want to scratch my eyes out.

    Why would I want to talk to someone if I felt we were wasting each others time?
    I'm no J, but I agree with this entirely.

    Stimulating conversation often, if not always, leads to some form of productive outcome.

    Communication is not only a tool, but a key, and those who use it well will unlock many fruitful doors/avenues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    Why do you want someone to offer something useful to you in a conversation? What difference does it make to you?
    I almost jumped off my chair seeing this posted, but then, you're anti-ENTJ in a way, and may often think in opposite way from me.

    Like CC, I like exchanging ideas and advice that relate both to me and the one I'm speaking with. That's one way to put both of us in a path that will steadily benefit and improve both of us. Success is really attractive, may it be in personal aspects, arts, understanding, other soft subjects, business, work or anything - anything at all.

    I'm all in for synergy in everything.

    Talking about something useful with another person gives me a taste of success from the two of us, and strengthens our relationship - whatever kind of relationship that might be. It makes the company of the other person quite attractive.
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    Be yourself, it's better to get along naturally with somebody rather than changing your style in order not to create friction. If your interaction with us is problematic, well, probably we know it and we'll both be better off avoiding each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Be yourself, it's better to get along naturally with somebody rather than changing your style in order not to create friction. If your interaction with us is problematic, well, probably we know it and we'll both be better off avoiding each other.
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