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    Eh, sounds like a lot of BS. When you see a field of grass, you're sensing, not Sensing, because sensing doesn't involve using any functions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    So how do you take it? It seems I've looked for this before on the Internet but couldn't find anything.
    I don't know, otherwise. (I forgot people said it was this hard to find. Perhaps I should really jump on the offer, then).
    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Eh, sounds like a lot of BS. When you see a field of grass, you're sensing, not Sensing, because sensing doesn't involve using any functions.
    Well, that's in an indirect way what this is affirming. Like I say animals have sensation (and we know they don't have any real intuition or judgment), but aren't "Sensors", because Sensation, like the other functions, are cognitive interpretations of data, coming from the frontal cortex back to the limbic area. Animals are purely limbic, as are humans for whom a particular function is in the "undifferentiated" state.

    That's why he asked "how many colors does a baby really see?" They're "sensing", but not yet Sensing, for as a function, it is not yet differentiated from the other functions. They're all mixed up together, which is why it seems ambiguous.
    So I guess when you pay attention to the grass, and the sights, smell, etc. just for what it is, that is Sensing, but when you think more about the color, it's actually Thinking. This makes sense, because I love looking at colors; especially really saturated ones like LED's, but I'm not a Sensor; and especially not an extraverted Sensor. I like to think of the three primaries, and the contrast of opposites, different shades of white, etc. Now it makes sense that this is Ti, using the internalized framework of triplicity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    I don't know, otherwise. (I forgot people said it was this hard to find. Perhaps I should really jump on the offer, then).
    Well, that's in an indirect way what this is affirming. Like I say animals have sensation (and we know they don't have any real intuition or judgment), but aren't "Sensors", because Sensation, like the other functions, are cognitive interpretations of data, coming from the frontal cortex back to the limbic area. Animals are purely limbic, as are humans for whom a particular function is in the "undifferentiated" state.

    That's why he asked "how many colors does a baby really see?" They're "sensing", but not yet Sensing, for as a function, it is not yet differentiated from the other functions. They're all mixed up together, which is why it seems ambiguous.
    So I guess when you pay attention to the grass, and the sights, smell, etc. just for what it is, that is Sensing, but when you think more about the color, it's actually Thinking. This makes sense, because I love looking at colors; especially really saturated ones like LED's, but I'm not a Sensor; and especially not an extraverted Sensor. I like to think of the three primaries, and the contrast of opposites, different shades of white, etc. Now it makes sense that this is Ti, using the internalized framework of triplicity.
    It sounds like you're talking about sensing for the sake of sensing itself, not for any other purpose. That would be passive Sensing abstracted from the activity of Judging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    This presentation: http://www.bapt.org.uk/conference_fi...esentation.pdf is similar to the Powerpoint he used.
    Thanks for posting this. Very interesting. I'm going to see if I can do it. It looks like there is more information out there now than there was a couple of years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    I don't know, otherwise. (I forgot people said it was this hard to find. Perhaps I should really jump on the offer, then).
    Well, that's in an indirect way what this is affirming. Like I say animals have sensation (and we know they don't have any real intuition or judgment), but aren't "Sensors", because Sensation, like the other functions, are cognitive interpretations of data, coming from the frontal cortex back to the limbic area. Animals are purely limbic, as are humans for whom a particular function is in the "undifferentiated" state.

    That's why he asked "how many colors does a baby really see?" They're "sensing", but not yet Sensing, for as a function, it is not yet differentiated from the other functions. They're all mixed up together, which is why it seems ambiguous.
    So I guess when you pay attention to the grass, and the sights, smell, etc. just for what it is, that is Sensing
    There is still a distinction to be made here between perception, apperception, and the Sensing function. So far you've only gotten to "apperception" (consciousness of being conscious), which a baby lacks.
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    Still can't even find a free Step II online (Step I's are much easier to make up, even half-assed).
    Did find one that only costs $55 to take, as opposed to $90+.

    I'd love to take it just to see it, but no way I can afford that expense at this time unfortunately.

    Thanks for all the info, Eric, in terms of where they are trying to go with the Step III.
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