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MBTI type and political affiliation?

Triglav

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From what I understand, a person's personality is second only to upbringing in what most determine's ones political affiliation. It seems that

Most NFs tend to be either liberal or moderate and openminded. For example, Barack Obama is an ENFP at least from what I understand, and is slightly right of center. In regards to religion, they are "spiritual" and tend to support marijuana legalization, saving the earth, etc. They remind me at least of hippies.

NTs, when they are interested in politics, are either communists or libertarians. Most aren't happy with the state of society in general, and look towards radicalism for the answers, which it often provides. They are also highly individualistic, and radical ideologies separate them from the rest of society. George Carlin's beliefs come to mind. I'm an INTP myself and I'm an anarchist-communist.

SJs are almost always right wing and conservative, at least socially. This one is pretty obvious, tradition and family are very important to them and they generally don't have much animosity towards the status quo unless it somehow subverts tradition or their values.

SPs I really don't know because I haven't met any in my life.

This is a pretty general summary and I'd write more but I don't have much time right now but I wanted to get this out so I could come back to it later.
 

Gewitter27

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I'm an INTP, I'm Libertarian, far closer to Right-Wing than Left-Wing.

SPs, if they know what it its, are usually Libertarian, because they want to be free to do what they want, when they want, how they want.
 

Nonsensical

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ENFP-Independent.

Anarchy would be nice, too.

but I guess I'm just saying that because I always think a radical change in tides would be nice.

I'm Independent. But I do think that governments should function more on the consent of the people rather than for money. Does that blow me off the middle ledge?
 

phthalocyanine

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NF and democratic socialist. apathetic about the political climate in america (among other things), but i still vote and i usually vote green.

i'm unashamed of being on the far left. i do have some somewhat conservative social opinions, otherwise i'd probably be a full blown anarchist.
lucy parsons ftw
 

Timmy

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In many ways, growing up in Southern California in the 1970's turned me into a libertarian (vice Libertarian party member, which I am not).

Fiscal conservatism - stay out of my wallet
Social liberalism - stay out of my bedroom and private life

This was very much the way much of SoCal was back then. Sadly, no longer.

I support much of what the Libertarian platform holds, but I do believe there's a place for some level of government (like...as outlined in the Constitution), whereas most of the Libertarian party members I know are more anarchist.
 

Matthew_Z

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I actually think we could use a lot more government. 90% of people are too stupid to think for themselves.
 

BlahBlahNounBlah

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Despite thinking it's misguided, I do have an anarchist streak.



And I don't care about political parties/labels in any way.
 

Valuable_Money

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From what I understand, a person's personality is second only to upbringing in what most determine's ones political affiliation. It seems that

Most NFs tend to be either liberal or moderate and openminded. For example, Barack Obama is an ENFP at least from what I understand, and is slightly right of center(really? I mean REALLY?). In regards to religion, they are "spiritual" and tend to support marijuana legalization, saving the earth, etc. They remind me at least of hippies.

NTs, when they are interested in politics, are either communists or libertarians. Most aren't happy with the state of society in general, and look towards radicalism for the answers, which it often provides(the humor here need not be stated). They are also highly individualistic, and radical ideologies separate them from the rest of society(I'm going to take a wild guess and say that you in high school). George Carlin's beliefs come to mind. I'm an INTP myself and I'm an anarchist-communist.

You are aware that there are two sides of the fringe?

ANARCHY! FUCK DA SYSTUM!!!111 Who needs cops and hospitals and all that bullshit.

Communism worked so well for the Russians.




So in conclusion Obama is a right winger and smart people are all Anarchists and Communists.
 

phthalocyanine

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Obama's definitely not a "socialist" as some media outlets love to label him.
 

Laurie

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I was thinking about this today. I was raised conservative (and christian). Yes, I'm sure that horrifies people. But I feel like I almost have a leg up on being able to see more than one side.

I was thinking about if there is a benefit to the more conservative leaning types being raised liberal or the more liberal leaning types being raised conservative.
 

Triglav

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You are aware that there are two sides of the fringe?

ANARCHY! FUCK DA SYSTUM!!!111 Who needs cops and hospitals and all that bullshit.

Communism worked so well for the Russians.




So in conclusion Obama is a right winger and smart people are all Anarchists and Communists.

Anarchism and Communism is really the same thing except that Communists believe in the Dictatorship of the Proletariat. Soviet Russia wasn't Communist, it was Authoritarian Socialist.

Obama is really not that different from Bush, it's amazing that when he's proposing a healthcare plan that's not as right wing as that of countries like Canada, with the conservatives supporting universal healthcare alongside the liberals, he is labeled a socialist and a marxist when in reality, all the public option is is more money pumped into corporations.
 

Spamtar

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Interesting thread.

Your categorization appears like it applies to me.

left leaning libertarian/constitutionalist/anti- interventionist with some paleoconservative tendencies. anti-neocon

I was registered as a Republican until with George W. in office it embarrassed me into registering as an independent
 

Valuable_Money

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Anarchism and Communism isare really the same thing(sure thing bro) except that Communists believe in the Dictatorship of the Proletariat. Soviet Russia wasn't Communist, it was Authoritarian Socialist.

Obama is really not that different from Bush(Except on the war, abortion, health care, and gay rights. Otherwise there twins), it's amazing that when he's proposing a healthcare plan that's not as right wing as that of countries like Canada, with the conservatives(are you sure that word means what you think it means?) supporting universal healthcare alongside the liberals, he is labeled a socialist and a marxist when in reality, all the public option is is more money pumped into corporations(and this refutes the previous statement how?)

You seem to have radically idiosyncratic definitions of the political right and left. From a fiscally conservative viewpoint Canadas health care is a far left.

Also why is labeling someone socialist bad? One of the worlds strongest economys(EU) is socialist.
 

Triglav

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I didn't say that, I said that the citizens of the USA label him as a Marxist and a Socialist, which is, in their minds, bad.

In regards to Canada, I'm saying the USA is so far right both socially and fiscally, something like universal healthcare, which isn't a very controversial topic in moderate-left countries like Canada, is subject to heated debate.
 

Ringtone

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I was thinking about this today. I was raised conservative (and christian). Yes, I'm sure that horrifies people. But I feel like I almost have a leg up on being able to see more than one side.

I was thinking about if there is a benefit to the more conservative leaning types being raised liberal or the more liberal leaning types being raised conservative.

I know what you mean. I was raised very conservative/Christian. Now, I am fairly moderate and open-minded. Probably leaning more liberally than conservatively but it really just depends on the subject. And I agree, its nice to be able to understand a bit the very conservative view without necessarily having to believe it.
 

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I actually think we could use a lot more government. 90% of people are too stupid to think for themselves.

And why a government would be more able to think for them? Suckers or not, peoples are responsives of their behavior and must be free.

ANARCHY! FUCK DA SYSTUM!!!111 Who needs cops and hospitals and all that bullshit.

Anarchy does'nt mean to eradicate cops and hospitals, but to break the state monopoly on theses stuff. So, anarchy is more efficient. You basically reasoning like peoples in USSR who believe that without the communist government, nobody will be here to product bread.
 
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