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    Default Temperament Priorities (Individual, World, Community, Family)

    I thought this was pretty interesting: Keirsey's son's rankings of priorities according to each temperament

    Rational = NT
    Idealist = NF
    Guardian = SJ
    Artisan = SP

    To simplify, and as an initial guess -- the problem is one has to represent the concept in abstraction (which makes little sense).

    Most Rationals would say: I rank MY individual, MY world, MY family, MY community.

    Most Idealists would say: I rank MY world, MY family, MY individual, MY community.

    Most Guardians would say: I rank MY family, MY community, MY individual, MY world.

    Most Artisans would say: I rank MY community, MY family, MY individual, MY world.

    In other words,

    MY INDIVIDUAL might be what the person believes the individual is inherently = the model of the individual's self interest. (THE INDIVIDUAL and the IMPORTANCE OF THE INDIVIDUAL)

    MY FAMILY might be what the person believes is the importance of his family and his model of the family. (THE FAMILY and the IMPORTANCE OF THE FAMILY)

    MY COMMUNITY might be what the person believes is the importance of his cohort and his model of his cohort. (MY TEAM and the IMPORTANCE OF THE TEAM)

    MY WORLD might be what the person believes is how the world works. (Political, Economic, Military, Physics Religions)
    This means that as an Artisan, my first priority is my circle of friends. I find that to be very true. Having friends about my age range with similar interests and lifestyles is the most important thing to me. Having rapport and interaction with them is a need, not just a want. I'll do pretty much anything for them. Family is next because what I value more than anything are people I can know personally and have relevance to my life. I let those mold my idea of who I am because I'm more likely to just fall into the flow of the group dynamic. Lastly I do care about worldwide dynamics but only as they affect people and especially those I can personally have interaction with. I care about what happens in the world but it's not a priority to try to do something about what I'll probably have little effect on.

    So, do you Idealists consider what happens on a global scale (I guess a sense of global community) to be the most important?

    Do you Rationals consider the importance of individuality to be the greatest?

    Do you Guardians think that family is the most important thing there is?

    etc, etc.
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    That's totally wrong for me.

    I'd rank my world, my individual, my community, and THEN my family.

    Why did none of the temperaments have family fourth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    That's totally wrong for me.

    I'd rank my world, my individual, my community, and THEN my family.

    Why did none of the temperaments have family fourth?
    Yes. Family is Last. That's exactly what I put my rank as.

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    Wrong for me, too.

    I would rank my family first, individual, my world, and THEN my community.

    I don't care what anybody says, to me, family is by far more important. It's people who love you and care for you. Your community and your world can't support and love you the way your family can. And this even applies for girlfriends, boyfriends, husbands and wives.

    Putting yourself above your family, in my opinion, shows a bit of selfishness. But I do cherish my individuality more than my world.
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    Why would you guys put family last?
    Is it that by its indefiniteness it shadows forth the heartless voids and immensities of the universe, and thus stabs us from behind with the thought of annihilation, when beholding the white depths of the milky way?

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    Family, Individual, Community, World.

    My immediate circle (fe - caretaking my "own"), myself (ni - it demands), community (se - actions on behalf of my town/state/country), world (ti - far-flung ideals and concepts that need thinking through for efficacy).
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    Family -> Individual -> Community -> World for me i think

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    Hm, I think that's about right for me actually.
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    For me it would be My individual, My family, My world, My Community. I have deep respects for my family. That's why I put the family in the second. If it wasn't for them I'd be dead.
    On the other hand everything else is in order. I couldnt give a rats ass for my community at all.

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    Community will come back to bite you on the butt. All actions radiate outward and will drag you in, regardless. Caring about what goes on in your environment is a matter of survival.
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