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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    1. Do you trust this unjustifiable idea?
    2. Which one would you hire?
    3. How certain are you of your decision?
    1. Nah, certainly not. I trust results and objective data.
    2. The first one. I hate mediocrity, I'd hire the seemingly more effective, and possibly problematic candidate. I'm positive I could handle the situation if necessary - I'd keep an eye on him/her though.
    3. 80-90%

    ... is this very un-INTJ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvyak View Post
    1. Nah, certainly not. I trust results and objective data.
    2. The first one. I hate mediocrity, I'd hire the seemingly more effective, and possibly problematic candidate. I'm positive I could handle the situation if necessary.
    3. 80-90%

    ... is this very un-INTJ?

    You sound like someone who relies on Te for everything,
    and by writing "certainly not," means Ni is foreign to you.
    At least at this point in your life.

    Food for thought-"objective data" and "results" can be oxymoronic.
    They can also be an illusion.
    Especially in business.

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    I am really suprised by the amount of people that didn't trust their intuition. That is really strange to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    1. Do you trust this unjustifiable idea?
    2. Which one would you hire?
    3. How certain are you of your decision?
    1. Yes
    2. The one I sensed would be the better candidate...so, the so-so one.
    3. Pretty certain.

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    Personally I don't view it as 'unjustifiable', because I trust my intuition when it comes to reading people, and I know that what is on the surface (i.e. excellent credentials, fantastic-ness on paper) isn't nearly everything. I go off of body language, subtleties, other things..the interaction itself and the vibe I catch from the person...just my sense of the persons overall character. Credentials are simply the icing -- and won't be of any use if the cake is rotten (ha! What a dumb metaphor ;-).
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    1. Heck yeah
    2. The one that I have a good 'feel' for (so-so one)
    3. Pretty certain

    .. Anyone can pull off a great first impression. I'm looking for someone genuine/that I can trust. Credentials, gpa, high achievement helps; it doesn't really say much about a person/their integrity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    You sound like someone who relies on Te for everything, and by writing "certainly not," means Ni is foreign to you. At least at this point in your life.
    Off: Interesting. This may mean that I'm Te-dominant without strong (auxiliary) Ni - that makes me an ESTJ, right? This would contradict the fact that I do not "defend procedures" and that I hate administration. I have to think this through.

    Quote Originally Posted by TickTock View Post
    I am really suprised by the amount of people that didn't trust their intuition. That is really strange to me.
    Err... most of the posters did trust their inuition

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    1) Intuitive Leap? Yes.

    2) The "so-so" one.

    3) 90% or more, depending on how much dirt I dug up. Trusting intuition is fine, but always back it up with concrete information. At least in real life.

    I am seldom wrong. And each time I am wrong, I become better at detecting bullshit.

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    In my mind, it would be foolish to avoid hiring him when all evidence (except your "bad feeling" about him) points to him being better. I would tell myself, "no, that's just a silly feeling."

    But if my suspicion were there, I'd like to figure out the cause. It would be worth investigating, asking myself "What do I know about him that may be giving me this bad feeling? Something in his history, demeanor, attitude, maybe I should call former employers, maybe I should give him some kind of secret 'test'."

    The point is that I'd like to test the hunch before throwing it away completely, but it's not going to get priority in the decision until something justifies it.

    If he were to bypass all these things, and end up being the wrong choice for the company after all, then yes, I guess "lack of trust for Ni" would be at fault here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvyak View Post
    Off: Interesting. This may mean that I'm Te-dominant without strong (auxiliary) Ni - that makes me an ESTJ, right? This would contradict the fact that I do not "defend procedures" and that I hate administration. I have to thing this through.
    You may like to examine the entire scope of your inclinations and behaviors under separate settings. In one circumstance, an individual could use an unfamiliar set of functions because it's been proven to get the task finished. So someone who is comfortable with say, introverted feeling, might choose to utilize more introverted thinking during their work hours. Another effective way of figuring out your preferences is to ask yourself which functions are you most energized & relaxed delving into while you're alone.

    [By the way: I strongly prefer Ni, Te and Fi. When I'm using either one in high amounts, people think I'm a.) crazy; b.) ENTJ or c.) NFP.]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalach View Post
    Generally speaking, if I get an intuition, I make it come true. For somewhere in there it is true. People talk about INTJs and the sneaky way we make perspective shifts, switching words or expressions till we're right. From the outside it looks like we missed something and are wrong, and switched something but still missed something and are wrong again, and then switched something again and still wrong, and then suddenly we have a formulation totally unlike the earlier attempts and we're walking around crowing about how we were right all along. Well, from the inside, we were right all along. The idea wasn't unjustifiable, it just wasn't justified yet.

    And it's shameful when that process doesn't end up working.
    Great post. I also find it humorous because it's one of the reasons why the other types assume we're close-minded and insufferable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvyak View Post
    Off: Interesting. This may mean that I'm Te-dominant without strong (auxiliary) Ni - that makes me an ESTJ, right? This would contradict the fact that I do not "defend procedures" and that I hate administration. I have to thing this through.

    I wouldn't call that ESTJ. No.
    It just means you lean heavily on your Te.
    For all you know, Ni may develop for you later.
    Or you simply lack awareness.

    No two people are exactly alike.
    People do not have to develop their functions,
    in the same way, or speed, someone else does.

    To think so would be dogmatic bullshit.
    But then MBTI can indeed be, dogmatic bullshit.

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