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    1. Do you trust this unjustifiable idea?
    Yes, although I would look into it more (ie do a second interview with the seemingly perfect but shady person). I've been right about this sort of thing too many times to ignore it.

    2. Which one would you hire?
    If I had to hire one of them and not keep the position open, I would hire the average one.

    3. How certain are you of your decision?
    Pretty certain. If someone makes me uncomfortable, it's almost always for a good reason.
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    1) Yes, of course.
    2) If it was my own business, I'd hire the candidate I prefer. If I was hiring on account of somebody else, then I would hire who fulfills the best the pre-requisites.
    3) 100%, we have evolved through million years to be able to spot stuff like this.
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    1. Do you trust this unjustifiable idea?
    Yes
    2. Which one would you hire?
    Definitely not the one I had a bad feeling about.
    3. How certain are you of your decision?
    97%, if I had to give a rough estimate

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    To be honest I don't even know how it is like to do things without having alot of Ni in my actions / thoughts. So I will say "Yes" as an answer.

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    Ni generally sets my direction. If it's telling me something, I'd be a fool to ignore it, since there's obviously something that I'm not seeing otherwise.

    Overall, I trust my Ni, as it doesn't usually let me down. And though I couldn't make a snap judgment in this scenario based solely on my Ni, I'd definitely search for the evidence needed to prove/disprove it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    "You've been interviewing candidates for a job.
    One of them has all the credentials, and scored the highest on all the company-defined criteria for the job.
    Another one of them was pretty good but not in the same league.
    You have a sense about the high-scorer, though, that he's bad news, and that the "so-so" one will work out well.
    You can't point to anything that's led you to this conclusion, you can't justify your belief, but you have this sense just the same."

    1. Do you trust this unjustifiable idea?
    2. Which one would you hire?
    3. How certain are you of your decision?
    I've trained myself over the years to look at a few things.
    1. Behaviors - What are the behaviors somebody needs to demonstrate to be successful on the job? You obtain evidence through questioning and specific examples. Based on that, you assess if they have a sufficient number of the behaviors that are required to be successful in the job.
    2. Intelligence - You can get an idea through grades, test scores, and other things in the conversation.
    3. Skills - Do they have the experience and the skills to be successful?
    4. Natural Ability - Do they have the natural ability to grow into the job or what could be the job?

    Gut feeling and first impressions are an influence. They always are. The tyranny of it is this: We like people who are like us. We like people that we have things in common with. We tend to dislike people who think differently than we do. We project our good and bad qualities onto others. We like people who smile, lean forward, show enthusiasm, make eye contact, etc. We dislike people who don't. I have learned the hard way that charm and charisma does not equal capability or performance.

    So, I have made enough mistakes to learn not to get myself into the positon of having to answer the question in the OP. I'll have a gut feeling but I'll back it up with some evidence and I'll listen to the other people who interviewed this person because I know they will see things that I don't. I'm actually pretty good at making hiring decisions. I'm sure intuition has something to do with it. But again, I've learned that if I rely on it to the exclusion of other things, that I can make mistakes.

    Most people rely on their gut feeling far too much in interviewing/recruiting situations, regardless as to whether or not Ni is in their top three functions. Some are not discerning enough and others are discerning in the wrong way.

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    a very similar situation to this happened to me recently, actually. i was called in to help interview two candidates.

    one was little more laid back and kind of vague. his resume looked good but in conversation he didn't exude knowledge or specific goals/direction. he was open and friendly and... didn't always answer the question.

    the other had more of a prim-and-proper sense about her and was eager to share knowledge and specific goals/direction. she was more awkward in communication (had a weird "kid" voice she'd use sometimes... ugh...)

    in my writeup for the deciding committee, i did err to the side of my gut, which said the guy, though i gave them both well-rounded reviews. i'm grateful that a committee of people is deciding this, and not just me. i haven't heard who was selected yet, and i won't know how it all pans out for another year at least. but we'll see! it'll be an interesting exercise.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post

    1. Do you trust this unjustifiable idea?
    2. Which one would you hire?
    3. How certain are you of your decision?
    1. i value it, but i don't trust it completely. there's always the possibility it could be too partial a read.
    2. if i'm not allowed to consult anyone else, or do any extra research - if i absolutely HAVE to hire someone on the spot - well, i would still want to try to break it down. see if my weird vibes have any factual basis. the problem is, if i have someone to report to if this person ends up doing a bad job, it's much easier to defend the better-qualified candidate. yes, i am interested in covering for my own tail. but if i have to work with this person often then i am going to hire whoever i have a better feeling about. i'm sure i can bullshit a good answer to why i hired the more average one later, even if i don't really want to have to.
    3. depends entirely on the situation, the people, and the circumstances surrounding it.


    i'm having a hard time differentiating between a Ne-Fi read and Ni, though. i generally have a superficial sense about people who i first meet that is totally accurate but not the whole picture, if that makes sense. like one of my very good friends i was initially wary of - much later i find out that she has very high trust boundaries and can be quite critical of those she does not know well sometimes. but it was not a full read - like i said, we are now very close friends. it was not a "ALERT BAD PERSON" vibe, it was just an "ALERT BE WARY AROUND THIS PERSON" vibe.

    is this Ni, or is this what i've been understanding as Ne-Fi? either i've misunderestimated (hah thank you george bush) my Ni ability, or i'm way underestimating Ni and i only have a very limited grip on it, or i'm using NeFi to come up with a Ni facsimile.

    actually one of the reasons i suspect it is a NeFi facsimile is because it doesn't tell me anything about the future, just about what to do in the present.

    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    If I had a really bad feeling about the first guy I'd go searching for proof to back that feeling up.

    There's got to be a reason for that feeling.


    N isn't magic. it's not infallible and it doesn't come from some sparkly divine unicorn. it's just getting to an answer before you know how you got there. it sacrifices detail to save time.

    and i feel like it's not wise to always trust intuition alone, even if one's Ni is very well-developed. i'm a Ne dom, intuition is the ocean i swim in, but that doesn't mean it's always showing me everything that is significant. i would rather see more information from another supporting source first. but then, perhaps that is what makes me a P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    "You've been interviewing candidates for a job.
    One of them has all the credentials, and scored the highest on all the company-defined criteria for the job.
    Another one of them was pretty good but not in the same league.
    You have a sense about the high-scorer, though, that he's bad news, and that the "so-so" one will work out well.
    You can't point to anything that's led you to this conclusion, you can't justify your belief, but you have this sense just the same."
    1. Do you trust this unjustifiable idea?
    No.
    2. Which one would you hire?
    My Ni says I will be wrong with either choice. If I hire the one with the good credentials, my gut feeling will turn out right.
    If I hire the other one, it will turn out my gut feeling was wrong and I will slap my head about not making the logical choice.
    Yes, that Ni of mine is pessimistic like that. Probably I'll try to find out where the gut feeling comes from. Most of the time I can pinpoint it to a cause.
    If I don't get more information, I'll hire the first one. You know, even if it turns out bad, I at least made the choice I could defend the best to my superiors.
    3. How certain are you of your decision?
    Not certain at all. I hate gut feelings, because I can't know whether to follow them or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    "You've been interviewing candidates for a job.
    One of them has all the credentials, and scored the highest on all the company-defined criteria for the job.
    Another one of them was pretty good but not in the same league.
    You have a sense about the high-scorer, though, that he's bad news, and that the "so-so" one will work out well.
    You can't point to anything that's led you to this conclusion, you can't justify your belief, but you have this sense just the same."

    1. Do you trust this unjustifiable idea?
    2. Which one would you hire?
    3. How certain are you of your decision?

    My answers:
    1. Yes Same
    2. The one I sensed would work out. Same
    3. 100% 90%


    I'd still check it out...using Fi
    It's interesting, I consider this process part of my Fi really. I do the background check to figure out where that feeling comes from automatically with NeFi. I'll ask questions, see if I can find out how this person works and why, see if the puzzle comes together, as it'll help me justify and defend my decision. I always thought it was the endconclusion of NeFi which provided that gut-feeling

    Once I figure out *why* he's bad news, I'll reevaluate..is it bad news that I can handle? Coz then I'll hire him and adjust accordingly..otherwise, I'll stick with my original choice.
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    ^ I'd say I have a similar process.....to me it's FiNe....I'm not entirely sure how Ni would work with me because I don't think it's a top function in my brain. Generally, credentials and criteria is used to justify the FiNe vibes, so I start with the whole impression & then break it down (I don't "score" people)....inferior Te, you know.
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