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    Default MBTI - science or bullshit?

    Is the MBTI science, or is it bullshit? (I'm already pretty sure that the enneagram is bullshit.)

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    More bullshit than science but still not 100% bullshit.

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    If you name your dog Spike, then Spike is his name. Not because science tells us its name is Spike, but because we named it so.

    Same for MBTI. Common behavioural patterns have been named into 16 categories, not because it's science. But because we named them so.

    Through MBTI a clearer picture can be made as to how certain people react in certain situations and in which category a person fits best. What qualities they seem to have, and what weaknesses they may have. Which ultimatly proves useful. Even though it is not science.

    Science? No. Bullshit? No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    If you name your dog Spike, then Spike is his name. Not because science tells us its name is Spike, but because we named it so.

    Same for MBTI. Common behavioural patterns have been named into 16 categories, not because it's science. But because we named them so.

    Through MBTI a clearer picture can be made as to how certain people react in certain situations and in which category a person fits best. What qualities they seem to have, and what weaknesses they may have. Which ultimatly proves useful. Even though it is not science.

    Science? No. Bullshit? No.
    Agreed. Just to clarify, I grouped MBTI with.... whatever "wisdom" is passed on in boards such as this one every day.

    MBTI isn't bullshit. It's what is inferred based on what Ti and Ne are, and what that says about an INTP (for example) , that can be bullshit.

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    MBTI is not science...

    Cognitive functions are just like Freudian theories... not science because it cannot be falsified.

    Think of MBTI as quick categorical labels defined arbitrary by people.
    Like colors of a rainbow... Red, orange, yellow, green, blue, violet, purple do not exist.
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    I understand what you mean by sorting into categories. We have 4 dichotomies so we have 16 categories, that's all good.

    But who decided that the secondary function needs to have the opposite E/I as the primary function? That sounds totally made up to me... much like "follow this line on the enneagram to see which type you turn into when Mars aligns with Jupiter"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightning View Post
    MBTI is not science...

    Cognitive functions are just like Freudian theories... not science because it cannot be falsified.

    Think of MBTI as quick categorical labels defined arbitrary by people.
    Like colors of a rainbow... Red, orange, yellow, green, blue, violet, purple do not exist.
    Sure they do; for instance, "red" is electromagnetic radiation with a wavelength of 650nm.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dbw View Post
    Sure they do; for instance, "red" is electromagnetic radiation with a wavelength of 650nm.
    Only exactly 650nm? Would one not classify a wavelength of 651nm as red? Where does red begin, and where does orange begin? By whose definition? At best, colors are fuzzy categorizations. And that's the point of the analogy.


    I will say that MBTI is taken way too far into the scientific realm than it ought to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    If you name your dog Spike, then Spike is his name. Not because science tells us its name is Spike, but because we named it so.

    Same for MBTI. Common behavioural patterns have been named into 16 categories, not because it's science. But because we named them so.

    Through MBTI a clearer picture can be made as to how certain people react in certain situations and in which category a person fits best. What qualities they seem to have, and what weaknesses they may have. Which ultimatly proves useful. Even though it is not science.

    Science? No. Bullshit? No.
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    Same applies for Enneagram. ^
    Is it that by its indefiniteness it shadows forth the heartless voids and immensities of the universe, and thus stabs us from behind with the thought of annihilation, when beholding the white depths of the milky way?

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