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    So basically what is the conclusion from this 19 page zombie?

    From what I see humour appears to be subjective with a large amount of agreement based on coincidental similarities in taste..... Just like everything value based!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AffirmitiveAnxiety View Post
    So basically what is the conclusion from this 19 page zombie?

    From what I see humour appears to be subjective with a large amount of agreement based on coincidental similarities in taste..... Just like everything value based!
    I doubt that anyone will find a strong correlation between humour and MBTI type. The only biological trait that I feel might is sex - the rushes of testosterone you get as a man can definitely influence what you think and joke about, and how likely you are to make jokes. Women seem less liable to use humour than men.

    The kind of media and books I was exposed to as a child - BBC comedies, limericks and satirical poetry (Chaucer, Shakespeare) - have definitely shaped my sense of humour. Naturally, the environment I grew up in has too: my dad is quite outspoken and rather shameless, walking around naked and talking about crude sexual things to get a reaction out of my mum. I haven't had the easiest start to life with other boys, either. That tore apart my native idealism and has made me more cynical than I might otherwise be.

    I think that my humour falls under two categories. Subtle, mocking humour that makes light of failings and ironies, and brash, outrageous humour designed to shock people. I can use hyperbole. Part of my aim in using humour is to force people to examine their own prejudices and moral imperfection - especially if they are earnest, feel-good types who can't take a joke. Feminists, SJWs and the like are easy pickings.

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    Haha I'm an INFP so I have Ne but I found that funny 😊
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    Most of my humor is deadpan, like Kullervo's. Sarcasm is my friend. And when people don't get it, it's easy to just carry on like normal. If they think it's offensive or something though, then I am obligated to inform them that I, in fact, was joking. "Well it wasn't funny." "Maybe not to you."

    On occasion I make more crude/off-color or sexual jokes. I don't talk like that often so it's good when I want to shock people. Things about black heels and black flats, and I suddenly say, "Well I'm white and I'm pretty flat." (Referring to my chest.) The look on the other person's face was priceless.

    There was also the time that one of our drum majors was leading a sectional and we were talking about hearing loss in one ear and playing piccolo (both the drum major and I played piccolo at the time). So she asked me about hearing loss and I went, "Huh?" And she repeated her question. It took two or three iterations before she got it. And then I answered her seriously.

    Telling actual jokes with set-up and punchline and stuff, I tend to either miss important details or start laughing way too hard in anticipation of the punchline. Back in freshman year, I had a bad habit of finishing the joke and immediately launching into explaining it. I've since remedied that but I sometimes go too far in the other direction where people either don't realize that the punchline is the punchline or they don't get it at all and I have to drop hints until they finally go "oh" or I've fully explained it. That might be the nature of the joke or it might be my delivery.
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    Ni humour imo comes off as very obnoxious because it's trying to get you to see their 'vision' or 'point' i guess and you feel stupid if you don't get it. Jimmy Carr (a supposed NTJ of some kind?) is a good example of that. Ne humour is more all over the place and trying to see a lot of different scenarios i'm guessing. (George Carlin, Bill Hicks, Robin Williams)

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    ni humor is very symbolic my dad is entj and alot of his friends are entjs so i constantly hear there humor,its very symbolic and funny,like this girl asked my uncle for a 5$ and my uncle said ,dear i dont even have a 5$ to borrow you

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    Ni humour, does it exist? if we are talking about the lack of Ni because Se is showing then it would be clowning around in an annoying way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    Ni humor:

    Just a couple days ago I made a lame, off-hand joke about how the birthday song is copyright now so we'd have to pay whoever holds the copyright to sing it, and then this other guy, who I didn't even know, began rattling off how it's not copyright infringement because we're not selling a product so we wouldn't owe anyone anything if we sang it.

    I just kind of stared at him dumbly for a while. He probably thinks I'm an idiot.
    Omg i also joke like this. XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by chubber View Post
    Ni humour, does it exist? .
    No it doesn't, we were born to lecture people about life, not to make them laugh
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    I knew a Ni-dom that was involved in a complex scheme of funny business creating some type of fake Wikipedia thingy. I'm curious about different sorts of Ni humor, and I think sometimes it can be a very private, internally hilarious humor that may or may not translate to the outside world. Perhaps it also involves distilling the complex nonsense of reality into a one-liner.

    Actually Marilyn Manson is a confirmed Ni-dom, and he has certain twists of humor based on ironies about life distilled down to a single concept. There is an intensity about it, though that is different from the lighter humor style of Ne. His song "I Don't Like the Drugs, but the Drugs Like Me" I *think* is a way of referring to the saying that religion is the opiate of the masses, combined with the idea of intrusive evangelism. I think he's calling religion a drug that actively seeks you out to convert you into using (I'm not personally insulting people who value religion, but this is what came to my mind at the moment). That would be an example of distilling humor to a core concept and using irony of perfect opposite to create a surprise connection.

    Ne humor is easier to read and there are a lot of comedians to use as examples because it is so good at re-contextualizing and forming plausible connections between random ideas. I once heard a Ne-aux say that humor is basically connecting ideas that are far apart in semantic space. He was a Ti-dom.
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