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jixmixfix

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anyone fool you, your dual (aka your possible soul mate BFF w/e u call it) are your first three letters flipped and your last the same. For example ESFJs dual is INTJ. ISFP is ENTP. ISTP, ENFP. The talk about your second letter staying the same, and all other 3 letters different(ex INTJ-ENFP) is wrong. INTJS and ENFPS are more less likely to get along.
 

The Decline

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Thanks for the heads up, broski. :nice:
 

Aerithria

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Yeah, I have never met an ESFJ offline who I didn't dislike.

And actually, those are Socionics duals. They don't necessarily correlate with MBTI.
 
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ThatGirl

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I don't think ISFJ males like me at all. And I believe the feeling is mutual. Even if I was a P, I don't see sfps and myself getting along either. Look at Jeffster and I, who were civil in vent but mutually and respectfully muted.
 

jixmixfix

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I don't think ISFJ males like me at all. And I believe the feeling is mutual. Even if I was a P, I don't see sfps and myself getting along either. Look at Jeffster and I, who were civil in vent but mutually and respectfully muted.

well then ur not ENTJ!!. I see these duals work alot though in real life so your case wont change my opinion.
 

SerengetiBetty

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I dunno, I think I would chew up and spit out an ISFP male. That might be real fun for m for about 2 days, but I don't think he'd appreciate it.
 

Thalassa

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I don't think ISFJ males like me at all. And I believe the feeling is mutual. Even if I was a P, I don't see sfps and myself getting along either. Look at Jeffster and I, who were civil in vent but mutually and respectfully muted.

But you aren't a P.
 

HaHa

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Gotta disagree. ISFP girls are fun to have around for awhile, but it's difficult to connect with them on a really personal, emotional level. I also feel like I have to kind of watch what I say around them, which annoys me. INFJ's on the other hand.... :hug:
 
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ThatGirl

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well then ur not ENTJ!!. I see these duals work a lot though in real life so your case wont change my opinion.


Lol, naturally.

I don't know though. The only type I consistently get along well with are INTJs, and I would bet money that I am not an ESFJ.
 

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Well, I guess this spells the end of the Relationships sub-forum. It had a good run, but it's no longer necessary.
 

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I'm not at all convinced by the whole concept of Dual. I really not keen on S types - which would kind of leave me sccrewed and not in a good way.

In Kersey's book the chaper on partnership said that rationalists and idealists have a better change of relating.. which I can see in life. This goes agaisnt the grain of what I've seen about Dual....

Lis
 

stellar renegade

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This is from Please Understand Me II:

Similarity of thought and speech - abstract or concrete - tends to work
for stability in a relationship, up to a certain point, that is. When both
mates communicate primarily about what they can observe (S), or about
what they can imagine (N), they quickly realize that they are sending and
receiving on the same wave-length as their partner. SPs mated with SJs
and NTs mated with NFs thus know where each other is coming from or
getting at in their messages, and there is pleasure, and strength, in this
common bond. But being too exactly alike (SP-SP, NF-NF, etc.) can have
its down side, the stability of shared language at times giving way to an
irritating predictability, and at other times to an unhealthy duplication,
even competition, in the relationship, problems difficult to ignore, and
which can grow over time. Remember that familiarity breeds contempt,
and if not contempt, then at least boredom, and perhaps rivalry.

On the other hand, complementarity in a couple's style of using tools
(cooperation mated with utility) tends to enhance the level of satisfaction
in a long-term relationship, at least to a certain extent, by creating not only
a feeling of completion or combined resources in the two mates, but also a
charming sense of mystery and challenge. In a cooperator's match with a
utilitarian, the cooperative partner (Guardian or Idealist) might admire the
utilitarian's (Artisan's or Rational's) independence or resourcefulness, while
the utilitarian partner might value the cooperator's interpersonal concern
or conscientiousness. Each might be intrigued by the other's character, and
might even hope to develop the other's neglected side over time. But when
the mates are diametrical opposites (SP-NF or SJ-NT), with different styles
of implementing their goals, and without the common ground of a similar
focus of language, each can feel in the relationship like a stranger in a
strange land, and bridging the gulf can present serious, lasting problems.

This is not to suggest that these problems cannot be solved, whether
problems of excessive similarity or excessive difference. As has been said,
particular couples have a way of working out their relationships no matter
what the mix of temperaments. But when speaking of the frequency of
long-term compatibility, the combination of similarity and complementarity
in the Artisan-Guardian and Rational-Idealist matches seems to give the
best chance of successful mating. In essence, the exceptional vitality of
these marriages comes from a shared style of communicating messages
wedded to an appreciation of, or at least a tolerance for, different ways of
using tools to implement goals.
 

Verfremdungseffekt

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Yeah, uh. Everyone I've encountered in real life who I might type as ESFP has annoyed the hell out of me.

There's this one girl who just wouldn't leave me alone, and never had anything interesting to say to me. I asked a coworker, a friend of mine, what the girl's problem was. "Oh, she's man-crazy," she said.

Ah.

I'm sure she has many other wonderful qualities.
 

Llewellyn

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I think there are different modes of pairing.

There is something about three-letter difference, but e.g. in the way of INTP-ENFJ, or INTP-ISFJ.

Also two letter (XXFP - XXTJ and XXTP - XXFJ).

But eventually, I wonder if type is the thing that binds two people.
 

Kra

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I'm not at all convinced by the whole concept of Dual. I really not keen on S types - which would kind of leave me sccrewed and not in a good way.

I'm not really keen on sensors in this regard either. We just don't get one another very much at all. That's fine in a work-relationship or a friendship, and can even be quite profitable/progressive. However, there's just not much facility for connecting at a deeper level from my experiences.

Of course that could have something to do with my N being damn near 100%...
 
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