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    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    1. What happens when you confront an obstacle?
    2. What motivates you?
    3. What calms you?
    1. I stop and try to intuit a way to get over it.
    2. the next step/results
    3. Results/shower/walks @ night/the rain
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    What happens when you confront an obstacle?
    Observe, assess, attack? First I'll have to determine whether it's worth doing anything about (does it have anything to do with my goals/ plans?); sometimes the competitive edge/ impulsiveness tempt me to waste effort and time eventhough I don't want the prize.

    What motivates you?
    Things I want.

    What calms you?
    Long shower/ bath, pampering myself, exercise, meditating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post

    What happens when you confront an obstacle?
    What motivates you?
    What calms you?
    I suppose it depends on the obstacle.
    In the past i would steamroll into it, emotional overload. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't.
    Nowdays i just try to rationalise it and work out the best way to deal with the obstacle minus feelings. That way i conserve my energy thus putting it to more practical use for when i remove the obstacle.

    If i am passionate about something or i get that 'feeling' that i am about to do the right thing, then it that motivates me. If i want it then i'll get it unless i am deflated.

    Trying to put a different spin on the situation usually calms me. I try to use logic to come to some kind of conclusion. Or just focus my attention on something else.
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    I agree with FDG almost completely. Nothing to add.

    **EDIT** Notice that's a very ExxJ thing--to put our two cents into something, even in agreement.
    Love is the point.

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    What happens when you confront an obstacle?
    I asses the obstacle: Is it worth surmounting? Pros and cons. Strategy? If I still think it's worth it, it's full steam ahead and you can't stop me unless you put a brick wall in front of me. Then you would probably just see a hole shaped like me in it.

    If it's a smaller obstacle, I usually don't even notice it.

    What motivates you?
    My wants, plans and visions. Injustice, unfairness. Rage (I always get shit done when I'm mad). The greater good. Inefficiency, especially when it comes to stuff where things could run much more smoothly, like practical matters and communication. Goals I've set for myself, personal improvement and keeping my independence.

    What calms you?
    Oddly enough, stress calms me. Physical activities, ambient music and also sex.

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    1) What happens when you confront an obstacle?

    Generally, when I confront an obstacle it goes away. /smartass answer

    Whatever the big picture happens to be is very important to me. If snags in a plan aren't best addressed directly, then I'll continue to study the problem so as to know whether there might be an alternative way to attain the same goal. Admittedly, I'm more motivated at sometimes than at others, but when I really want something I'm fearless, resourceful and relentless.

    2) What motivates you?


    I think the most important thing to me is my personal freedom. I don't like to depend on others, and active attempts of others to control my behavior in any way will provoke a highly visceral response. I know ENTJs are supposed to be power obsessed, and I think the "Id" portion of myself salivates at the prospect of blood, sex, control or even some combination thereof. It's not the point though. I like to be able to think that whatever I do is for the benefit for others, as well as being fun. Fun is important, but most would consider the things I enjoy to be odd.

    3) What calms you?

    I like being outside especially right before sunset. I like being around family, close friends and my dog. Running is nice. I also feel good and languid after a big steak cooked rare. :yum:
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    Oh yes, going for walks. Very good, Rex.

    This may sound silly, but when I was a teenager, I used to wear my dad's coat because it smelled like him and that helped keep me calm when I was anxious. I guess I'm more like a puppy than a person that way.
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    I've waffled on whether or not to post this but whateva.

    Up until the beginning of this spring, I was under the false impression that I was a flexible person. I laugh maniacally over that thought now. I mean, I think I'm reasonably flexible, but am I really? (<-----sign of low Fi, Athenian) When I think about it, I get my way most of the time with most people except at work and I'm working on that one. Not that I necessarily believe my way is the only Best Way, but I think my way is a strong contender for The Best Way and because I have this belief I act accordingly. Uh, in other words The Flow that people try to go with...I think that's me.

    My main weapon is sheer force of will and that can range from at best charm, enthusiasm, and persuasion to at worst intimidation, stonewalling, and belligerence depending on the situation. And you know what, I'm not really ashamed of that although I feel like I should be, but eh, not really. I ask people that know me very well, do you think I bulldoze and steamroll people? I typically get, "Yes, but..." and that confuses me. How can someone agree that I steamroll and bulldoze and then tack on a "but it's OK!" I get these concessions that I make sense but... What works out is my good friends and family give as good as they get (meaning they'll whap me in the head with a quickness) so I don't think that they're afraid to speak their minds. In fact, I like these people especially because they don't let me run amok. I don't do well with people I feel like I must treat gingerly. I think part of this is that the same way I press my will out, I expect people to press their will out and my perception of myself is that I'm way more compromising than I let on if people just push against me, but I'm realizing most people don't and I'm not sure why.

    My perception of myself as an EJ basically has these words repeating over and over again. Go. Now! Go. Now! Move, move, move! Take it easy, what's that mean? Once again, I think I'm taking it easy but am I really? And to be honest, that has worked well for me. Yeah, maybe I'll ease up (but ease up on what???) when I'm 70 and my bones are full of arthritis or I fracture my hip or something. That's another thing I realize about myself, I push people. I definitely think an EJ blindspot is knowing when to push and when to ease up. You don't want to break the people you love the most.

    Good/bad things happen when I push people. Sometimes my only desire is for something to change directions because stagnation means I don't know where or how to apply myself...there's nothing for me to act with or against and I don't know where to move and I don't like that uncertainty. On the positive side, I think EJ pushing "looks like" confidence to most people and get on board with it and sometimes that's enough to make things go in a positive direction. Here's somebody who seems to know where they're going, seems resolute, will relieve the awesome burden of leading from those who know what a heavy responsibility leading can be. On the negative side you can have someone who cares naught for any individual and the basic mentality is at least the trains run on time.

    So if I only care for the shape of things I lose my desire to have my ear to the ground and be in step with what the people want and my populism turns into a dictatorship, but then I think dictatorships tend to be pretty stable governments and I can declare a national holiday in my honor and have marble statues of myself in all government buildings and have a traveling living legend wax likeness of myself going city to city and have schoolchildren sing anthems honoring me, then I get confused all again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPiranha View Post
    Oh yes, going for walks. Very good, Rex.

    This may sound silly, but when I was a teenager, I used to wear my dad's coat because it smelled like him and that helped keep me calm when I was anxious. I guess I'm more like a puppy than a person that way.
    Somehow...this still does not explain the dry humping
    But I get cha. I have something similar to this, because i will write about someone.
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