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  • ambitious, target/goal-oriented, need priority, try to be the BEST and number 1 success

    13 35.14%
  • tend to be laid-back, relaxed, easy-going, carefree attitude, 'just go with the flow'

    24 64.86%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lookin4theBestNU View Post
    I voted for ambition though I don't define success in accepted societal terms such as materialistic achievement. However I am wondering if I am the only one who sees this as a paradox of *some* of the Perceiving temperaments.... "My goal is to not have a goal!"
    Who answered like that (who is the *some*)? I suppose mine can be misconstrued as saying that.

    What I was saying is weird, I know. I have some very long term, very grandiose goals. All I care is that I am striving for them, and that there is still hope for me (or someone else by building on what I and others did) to reach the goal.

    But, I don't really care that much if I reach the goals or not.

    In other threads, people have talked about financial freedom, freedom from obligations, etc. I think goals and obligations are very different things.

    One of my goals is not to have obligations (or as few as possible).

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    You have to maximize efficiency in order to drive to the max the time you're "on", and relax completely the time you're "off", so that you can enjoy both success and relax at different times. I don't see why the two options are mutually exclusive or, rather, I see that they are mutually exclusive at a given point in time.

    I want to maximize pleasure, basically, and minimize pain. A life in pain spent for success is usueless. I think that what had the most impact on my mindset was the book "Martin Eden" from Jack London.

    Now I try to go with the flow in such a way as to catch the right flow that leads me to the destination I want, making waves only if I see that the flow is heading towards another direction.

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    I didn't get it from the answers nor was I targeting your post specifically. I got it from experience with P-types and the first 3 paragraphs of the OP which to me sounded very much like that. Also the *some* was because within any given temperament each person can be different which is to be expected. Meaning there could possibly be some super-goal oriented P's out there! One of my spouses main "goals" in particular is to not to be restricted from doing anything he wants to do at anytime he wants to do it.
    "At points of clarity, I realize that my life on earth is meaningless, and that I am merely a pawn in a bigger game. A game I cannot possibly understand or have control of. Thankfully, before depression sets in, I drift back into my cloudy, bewildered daily routine." **Joel Patrick Warneke**

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lookin4theBestNU View Post
    One of my spouses main "goals" in particular is to not to be restricted from doing anything he wants to do at anytime he wants to do it.
    That sounds like a good one to me too

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    I have so many idea's I can't be laid back. Free time just means a gap to kick off another of my projects....

    Why do I do it?... its not money, its not to impress anyone... other than trying to impress myself with more and more unobtainable challenges. Realisation of concepts is even more enjoyable than the creation of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veneti View Post
    Realisation of concepts is even more enjoyable than the creation of them.
    What if the concepts self-realize? Just a thought, we are on the verge of a robotics and control-theory revolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lookin4theBestNU View Post
    One of my spouses main "goals" in particular is to not to be restricted from doing anything he wants to do at anytime he wants to do it.
    Sounds good to me. What else could one desire to do?

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    I'm more or less part of the second group, though some wouldn't know it because of my outside behaviour. Yes, I plan and set goals but it's mostly for the benefit of being able to have lots and lots of time to play...as well as knowing where I'm going. I'm often in such a mild state of confusion, it would be ridiculous if I didn't try to order something in my life. Yes, I want to be the best, but not at everything, just at what I love doing. I couldn't handle the stress of wanting to win ALL the time. Mostly I just want to be above average, and if I can make it there, I'll be pretty happy...but if I go beyond that for some reason, then that's cool too. I really can't stand the stress of being competitive, ambitious, number one every second of my life. Plus, I love playing way too much to be so serious about being ambitious (which is why I'm trying for a career that basically involves a form a play for me).

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    It's 5 pm, I've just come in to work, and I'm wasting time on a forum. Yeah, very ambitious.


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    I'd say I'm happiest when I'm working toward something and have goals. I would say one of the most miserable times in my life was a few months ago when I graduated college, moved back home with my family (to a city where I don't really have friends), was unemployed, and had no more classes to occupy my time (At least, until grad school started 2 months later). I was beyond miserable and was going stir-crazy. I began organizing all of my things, cleaned, did housework, read a lot, went running every morning, applied for various jobs, and tried to do anything to stay active. It wasn't until I found a job and started school again that things got better.

    The thing is, I really don't have any aspirations of being "the best." I just want to do enjoy my work and strive to do my best whenever I take on a task. Lol...I set aside time to relax and try to be spontaneous from time to time so I can strike a balance between the two. Overall, I'm most comfortable working, but I love my playtime too.

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