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    Quote Originally Posted by Costrin View Post
    Actually I think many Fs like the directness and the freedom to be direct about what they feel themselves. But of course it likely wont happen instantly.
    Oh yes. Please just say it how it is.
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    they will learn to enjoy chocolate cake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasz View Post
    I learn to not always immediately jump into problem solving mode when approached with someone being upset. I learn to listen and relate to people instead of focusing solely on issues.
    Yes. It never even dawned on me that there was another way to approach a situation like that. I still fall back on problem solving more than the latter though.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wind-up Rex View Post
    How willing are Fs to compromise in terms of the Ts need for forthrightness?
    This ended my most recent relationship. We battled over it for more than 2 years. She would often lie at first, which meant it would take even longer to solve a problem. It was draining.


    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    I bought and studied books on etiquette and even went to a class with my ENTJ sis on how to be nice. And it's working.
    I've done the same. Books and classes.



    OP: Fs are capable of giving Ts the same thing that other Ts can. Yet, it can appear to occur in completely different ways. Affection and love is a human trait, not a type one.

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    Couldn't Fs give Ts kind of a "safe place" to allow themselves to be more emotional, which is a human need regardless of type?

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    If I feel emotions, I ride them until they are done. What more room would I need?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind-up Rex View Post
    Warmth. Someone who doesnt run away when we're in a mood. Awareness of a whole level of reality we wouldn't have known of otherwise. A complementary intellect. Home is people for me, and I think that he could be someone I consider home. For a woman of my type, there arent a lot of men whod provide that without feeling the need to crush her first. Whereas I get the sense that if I were to fall in love with an INFP, the dynamic would be complex but binding nonetheless.
    I can see that.

    I like F types because they believe things mean something. I believe this, too, but I often don't feel it. It is healing for me to be around people who care about things other than whether something is interesting or right. T types seem to always want to make a point about something, whereas F types seem to just value relationships a bit more. I find they can bring out my latent caring for other people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 01011010 View Post
    Yes. It never even dawned on me that there was another way to approach a situation like that. I still fall back on problem solving more than the latter though.
    I actually do that too.

    This ended my most recent relationship. We battled over it for more than 2 years. She would often lie at first, which meant it would take even longer to solve a problem. It was draining.
    I really, really hate it when people do that. I don't see what the point of doing that is, fluffing up the problem and not accepting the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Costrin View Post
    Actually I think many Fs like the directness and the freedom to be direct about what they feel themselves. But of course it likely wont happen instantly.
    I have no doubts that Fs are immensely in tune with themselves, but experience has taught me that what an F will think/feel and how they will actually interact with you arent exactly one and the same. Its difficult to spend time constantly second guessing someone youre intimate with. Obviously, youre going to have suppose the best of the other person after a certain point, but its apparently a fairly common source of tension

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    If I feel emotions, I ride them until they are done. What more room would I need?
    Not everyone is like you, though. Some people have a need to let their logical guard down. It might not apply to you as an individual, but to some other Ts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    Couldn't Fs give Ts kind of a "safe place" to allow themselves to be more emotional, which is a human need regardless of type?
    I think Fs give us a safe place where we don't have to worry about being logical and precise and can relax, but not necessarily a place to be more emotional. That assumes that Ts aren't emotional because they're concerned about the image or stigma associated with expressing their feelings, and that they require a place where it is "ok" to do so, which isn't necessarily true.

    EDIT: It'd be like saying that Fs need a place where it's "ok" to be logical.

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