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    Quote Originally Posted by Monei View Post
    I actually wish sometimes I was an ISTP so that I could have a stronger Se and just enjoy the moment but still have my introverted and thinking preferences and the P would do nice to not think of everything and the impossible that happens!
    I was raised by two Sensors and two Intuitives (INFJ/ISFP and ISTJ/INTJ) that were paired together likewise and I think that I was better for it. Intuition does not equal Intelligence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    Because we live in a pretentious self indulgent culture where everyone thinks they are special.
    I reckon a few more of us need to read this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monei View Post
    Intuition does not equal Intelligence.
    There was a similar statement on another thread which said the opposite, i.e. that intuition = intelligence. I posted a reply to that. I will reply to this one too. It agrees with you but puts it a different way:

    1. Intuitives are more intellectual than Sensors.
    2. Intellect and intelligence are not the same thing


    Intellect concerns our ability to think in the abstract. Intelligence, for me, is our ability to cope with the world around us. Arguably S types would score higher here than Ns.

    PS: I might add a 3rd bullet:
    3. IQ tests measure intellect not intelligence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zelo1954 View Post
    A true S type would look at some of those questions and think "what a load of bollocks". So I'm not sure I agree that many supposed Ns are really S types in disguise. They are true Ns who appreciate the beauty of the natural (or even manmade) world
    My ISTJ mother has taken a few of these tests, and always tests ISTJ. And she's indicated that excessive theorizing is stupid and I think she finds head-in-the-cloud cerebral sorts (INTJ's) silly - she actually looks more down on those types - in an I-don't-have-any-desire-to-aspire-to-that/I-don't-understand-that sort of way. So, I honestly don't think she'd be that into INTJ descriptions.

    I believe my father to be an ISFJ, and he's a very smart, rather bookish man. But I'd never be able to get him to take an mbti test, because he kind of scoffs at the very notion of all of it. I am really not sure what he would test as, though. I tend to think he too wouldn't look so favorably upon how N dichotomies are worded in some of these tests; I think he takes a lot of pride in practicality, common sense, and all of the other descriptors used for S-dichotomy questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zelo1954 View Post
    There was a similar statement on another thread which said the opposite, i.e. that intuition = intelligence. I posted a reply to that. I will reply to this one too. It agrees with you but puts it a different way:

    1. Intuitives are more intellectual than Sensors.
    2. Intellect and intelligence are not the same thing


    Intellect concerns our ability to think in the abstract. Intelligence, for me, is our ability to cope with the world around us. Arguably S types would score higher here than Ns.

    PS: I might add a 3rd bullet:
    3. IQ tests measure intellect not intelligence.
    You might want to add a 4th bullet point, all too often omitted from these discussions:

    4. MBTI describes preference, not ability.
    -end of thread-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomnity View Post
    4. MBTI describes preference, not ability.
    The most intelligent people in both crowds seem to be able to quickly translate and switch.

    In general I assume the most intelligent people tend to score towards the middle on all axes, being competent in all areas.

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    i don't know that i would say the most intelligent but likely the most successful or effective people do.
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    Since the OP is about -

    This thread is about natural sensors who think they are intuitives
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    But now you can even tolerate Riva!
    mean that you doubt my ENTPness? How dare you!
    Or are you referring to my iNTj self typing?
    Or are you referring to my constant poking of the poor fellow?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    Dude, the most interesting part of this thread was finding out that you used to get annoyed.
    I have tried great many things to annoy him (especially on vent). To my despair I have only met with failure. Sigh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riva View Post
    Since the OP is about -





    mean that you doubt my ENTPness? How dare you!
    Or are you referring to my iNTj self typing?
    Or are you referring to my constant poking of the poor fellow?



    I have tried great many things to annoy him (especially on vent). To my despair I have only met with failure. Sigh!
    So Riva how did you now decide on eNtp rather than iNTj?
    Personally I have considered both of those for my type before too! Such awsome types that everyone wants to be!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    So Riva how did you now decide on eNtp rather than iNTj?
    Personally I have considered both of those for my type before too! Such awsome types that everyone wants to be!
    I have 'chosen' to 'be' an ENTP. With practice, perseverance, and an overwhelming amount of patience I believe I could become one.

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