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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    ESTPs, I would say. They're hustlers.

    The question was not which type is most likely to get rich.
    You're a hustler, does that make you an ESTP

    Probs not, that's poor logic.

    But you are a hustler.



    and by the way, Capone was probably an ESTP.
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    I'm good at making money but not that good at saving it. Becoming better now, but whenever I save money there is always a lingering feeling that I'm wasting my life away. I don't buy useless things, but I like going on trips, eating out, etc. etc.
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    I'm pretty good at making it, pretty good at saving it, but I really hate working, so I'm not surprised to find ENTP at the bottom end.

    I believe in min max solutions. Minimum effort for maximum payoff. I have a few friends that make more than me, but I would honestly never trade places with them. They appear to work at least 8 hours a day and 5 days a week. Who wants to do that?
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    I read all the charts in that INTJ Forum thread. What a disgrace of statistical misuse. ENTJ are among the most often married, and surprise, they are among the best in annual household income. (Find the connection here).

    Of course the income is just not about family size (which probably goes up with the status of being married), but it's potentially a strong influence. This is why factor interdependencies should be figured out before doing conclusions. But, factor analysis and such is beyond the most statistician-wannabes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Santtu View Post
    I read all the charts in that INTJ Forum thread. What a disgrace of statistical misuse. ENTJ are among the most often married, and surprise, they are among the best in annual household income. (Find the connection here).

    Of course the income is just not about family size (which probably goes up with the status of being married), but it's potentially a strong influence. This is why factor interdependencies should be figured out before doing conclusions. But, factor analysis and such is beyond the most statistician-wannabes.
    What does ENTJ have to do with making the most money?
    Whatever the claim there you see is bull, unless you are a millionare yourself and can prove us wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halla74 View Post
    Highest Average Annual Household Income
    (From highest to lowest)

    1. ENTJ (84,434)
    2. ESTJ (76,238)
    3. ESFJ (74,882)
    4. INTJ (72,043)
    5. ENFJ (71,060)
    6. ISTJ (71,020)
    7. ESTP (69,323)
    8. ISTP (67,349)
    9. ENFP (66,210)
    10. INTP (64,872)
    11. INFJ (64,372)
    12. ISFP (64,166)
    13. ISFJ (63,870)
    14. ESFP (63,281)
    15. ENTP (62,960)
    16. INFP (61,565)
    Yeah, I Knew the ExTJ's were at the top of the list. My ENTJ dad is a workaholic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud View Post
    What does ENTJ have to do with making the most money?
    Whatever the claim there you see is bull, unless you are a millionare yourself and can prove us wrong.
    Ok, first you could start being sensical.

    More precisely,

    1) What have I supposedly expressed seeing other than one statistic explaining another?
    2) Speaking of statistics, what claim I have I made that would be proved by taking myself as an example?
    3) What claim I have made that would benefit from me being a millionaire?

    Answers found out by reading my hidden motives from my mind don't qualify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Santtu View Post
    I read all the charts in that INTJ Forum thread. What a disgrace of statistical misuse. ENTJ are among the most often married, and surprise, they are among the best in annual household income. (Find the connection here).

    Of course the income is just not about family size (which probably goes up with the status of being married), but it's potentially a strong influence. This is why factor interdependencies should be figured out before doing conclusions. But, factor analysis and such is beyond the most statistician-wannabes.
    I am thinking along similar lines as you. I think the reason that J's are at the top of the list is that their principals and values are externally defined. It could be that ExxJ's put the highest priority on making money, or it could be that they put the highest priority on things like marriage and that consequently means they end up making more money (or it could be other external factors like acquiring possessions of status, etc...). However you look at it the goals are externally defined, so the J's want money more because of that.

    With P's the goals are more unpredictable. I know that there are ENTP's out there who will work to start a successful business. However there are also ENTP's out there that are content to live in their parents basement and not ever get a job if they can get away with it. The goals of P's are less consistent from person to person.
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    Hm, perhaps I've shouldn't have posed that as a question.

    There's J-like values that do contribute to making money, as Liquid Laser and others have finely stated.

    Look at the link INTJ forum. Some of those who's households earn the most are most often married, making the number of earning people in their household higher. So, interpreted other way, ENTJ might just choose to live with a mate more often. Not entirely true, but.

    Ahh I'll post here, no-one will look the link anyway :P


    Personality Type Frequency
    (From highest to lowest, gathered from results of 22,000 questionnaires)

    1. ISFJ (11.9%)
    2. INFP (11.4%)
    3. ENFP (11.3%)
    4. ISTJ (8.8%)
    5. ESFJ (8.6%)
    6. ESTJ (7.1%)
    7. ISFP (5.9%)
    8. INFJ (5.9%)
    9. ESFP (5.4%)
    10. ENFJ (4.3%)
    11. INTP (4.0%)
    12. ENTP (3.6%)
    13. ISTP (3.1%)
    14. INTJ (2.9%)
    15. ESTP (2.8%)
    16. ENTJ (2.2%)




    Highest Education Level
    (From highest to lowest)
    The scale used to compute these statistics is from 1 to 6, with 1 being lowest (did not graduate high school) and 6 being highest (PhD or equivalent).

    1. ENTJ (4.12)
    2. INTJ (3.93)
    3. ESTJ (3.83)
    4. ISTJ (3.78)
    5. ESTP (3.73)
    6. INFJ (3.72)
    7. ENFP (3.69)
    8. INTP (3.69)
    9. INFP (3.67)
    10. ESFP (3.63)
    11. ENFJ (3.60)
    12. ESFJ (3.62)
    13. ISTP (3.59)
    14. ISFJ (3.58)
    15. ENTP (3.54)
    16. ISFP (3.52)




    Highest Average Annual Household Income
    (From highest to lowest)

    1. ENTJ (84,434)
    2. ESTJ (76,238)
    3. ESFJ (74,882)
    4. INTJ (72,043)
    5. ENFJ (71,060)
    6. ISTJ (71,020)
    7. ESTP (69,323)
    8. ISTP (67,349)
    9. ENFP (66,210)
    10. INTP (64,872)
    11. INFJ (64,372)
    12. ISFP (64,166)
    13. ISFJ (63,870)
    14. ESFP (63,281)
    15. ENTP (62,960)
    16. INFP (61,565)




    Highest Percentage Married
    (From highest to lowest)

    1. ESFJ (53%)
    2. ISTJ (51%)
    3. ENTJ (51%)
    4. ESTJ (50%)
    5. ISFJ (48%)
    6. INTJ (44%)
    7. ISTP (43%)
    8. ENFJ (40%)
    9. ISFP (38%)
    10. INFJ (37%)
    11. ENTP (37%)
    12. ENFP (36%)
    13. INTP (35%)
    14. ESFP (34%)
    15. ESTP (31%)
    16. INFP (30%)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halla74 View Post
    There's a list out there of avg. income by type.

    Highest Average Annual Household Income
    (From highest to lowest)

    1. ENTJ (84,434)
    2. ESTJ (76,238)
    3. ESFJ (74,882)
    4. INTJ (72,043)
    5. ENFJ (71,060)
    6. ISTJ (71,020)
    7. ESTP (69,323)
    8. ISTP (67,349)
    9. ENFP (66,210)
    10. INTP (64,872)
    11. INFJ (64,372)
    12. ISFP (64,166)
    13. ISFJ (63,870)
    14. ESFP (63,281)
    15. ENTP (62,960)
    16. INFP (61,565)

    FROM: MBTI Demographics - all types - INTJ Forum
    when you look closely, the gap in avg income between numbers 1 and 2 is huge in comparison!
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