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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    My answer would be something like this:

    A pentagram-shaped table, with an opening in the center for the ESFP to sit in.

    The other types would be situated as such:



    Do you get it?

    I think it would also go like this:

    Bottom section: Planners/Researchers/Developers

    Bottom right: Executives/Managers

    Bottom left: Public Relations

    Top right: Art/Advertising

    Top left: Logistics/Inspectors/Maintenance

    Center: Company President (You DID create it, after all)
    Let's get married.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stellar renegade View Post
    Only thing is, we SPs won't be content to just come up with a plan, and we have a hard time "brainstorming".
    f'ing useless SPs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChosenOne View Post
    What options do I have in arranging the room? How many tables am I provided with? Are they round tables or square ones? Any cubicles? 16 chairs, I assume?

    Until I get the answers, I have to say I would put the extroverts toward the center of the room. Other than that, I would mix the N's and S's together because together they would be great.
    I saaaaaid you get as many rooms and tables and chairs as you want. Well, I don't know why you'd want more than 16 chairs. Unless you wanted people to lie down across like, 4 chairs or so so that they can get more comfortable. I would HATE it if there were a bunch of extroverts in my face all the time. I can't get any work done if there are extroverts around. Did you know they just talk to you the whole time?! How can anyone work like that?!

    And mixing Ns and Ss!? Madness! How will they ever understand each other?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walking Tourist View Post
    How about if everyone just goes outside, gets some fresh air, and then comes back in, and finds their seat waiting. Seats are assigned randomly without regard for personality type.
    I think it really matters. I worked in an office once where I worked at a table with (I'm guessing of course) an INTJ, ENFJ, INFP. Did not go well with an ESFP. They were all unhealthy too. The INTJ never spoke a word and wasn't friendly at all. The ENFJ was the most manipulative person I have ever met. The INFP was nice but he was totally whipped by the ENFJ. Then I moved to another table because we couldn't get along and I worked with an ESFP (and we got along GREAT btw) and an ISTJ. They were both unhealthy too but I got along with them way better. The ESFP and I never hurt each others feelings and the ISTJ and I knew when to leave each other alone. So yeah, I think personality makes a big difference.
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    I think I have a better idea.

    Tables of two:
    Promoter-Executor (ESTP)/Planner-Inspector (ISTJ)
    Performer (ESFP)/Caretaker-Protector (ISFJ)
    Supervisor-Implementor (ESTJ)/Action-Driven Problem Solver (ISTP)
    Provider (ESFJ)/Composer-Producer (ISFP)
    Director-Mobilizer (ENTJ)/Conceptualizer (INTP)
    Inventor (ENTP)/Mastermind (INTJ)
    Mentor (ENFJ)/Harmonizer-Clarifier (INFP)
    Inspirer (ENFP)/Foreseer (INFJ)
    E - 79% I - 21%
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    So far I do think Athenian's is the best. But I was wondering... I'm not sure how many of you are familiar with socionics (I'm not all that familiar with it myself...so correct me if I'm missing something), but I found it interesting that you could arrange four groups such that each member in the group was either a Duality, a Mirror, or an Activity to another. So you don't have to read all of it, here's a few key points:

    1) Duality relations are the most favorable of intertype relations providing complete psychological compatibility, as they are like two halves of a whole unit. Duals will naturally protect your weak points and appreciate the strong ones without asking for anything in return.
    2) Mirrors are relations of mutual correction as they have similar interests and ideas, but a slightly different understanding of the same problem. Each can only see half of one problem, and always find what the other is thinking interesting.
    3) Interactions of activities are nice and easy and the advice of one can strengthen the other's weakness.
    4) Mirror relations usually lack warm atmosphere between partners. This situation normally changes in presence of a third person who is Dual to one partner and an Activity partner to the other.
    5) Also note that while there isn't one of each temperament type or interaction style in each group, there's still a good mix. There's an SJ and SP in each group, and there is either 2 NFs or 2 NTs. I guess NTs and SFs pair up best together and NFs and STs pair up best together? As for interaction style, each style is in 3 different groups (1 group has two).

    So the groups would be:
    1) ENTJ, INTP, ESFP, ISFJ
    2) ESTJ, ISTP, ENFP, INFJ
    3) ENTP, ISFP, ESFJ, INTJ
    4) ESTP, ENFJ, ISTJ, INFP

    Anyways, this is all kind of theoretical. I don't know if it would actually work. But if the goal was generating ideas, I think it would work out quite well as everyone's weaknesses are covered by the strength of another. However, I have no idea what each group would be assigned to do... I'm sure there's a whole lot of varying interest. (I'd like trying to pit the groups against each other... like in a scavenger hunt or something. That would kick ass. Go Team 3!)

    Personally, I'd like working with an ESTJ, ENFP and INFJ. They are the three most interesting types to me, as they have very different ideas that fascinate me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StephMC939 View Post
    2) Mirrors are relations of mutual correction as they have similar interests and ideas, but a slightly different understanding of the same problem. Each can only see half of one problem, and always find what the other is thinking interesting.
    4) Mirror relations usually lack warm atmosphere between partners. This situation normally changes in presence of a third person who is Dual to one partner and an Activity partner to the other.
    You know, I've never found socionics to be the least bit accurate. ISFJ is my mirror partner and none of this stuff is true at all. I've known several ISFJs and we've always loved each other and been warm to each other. Never had any of the other stuff happen. I don't understand why socionics is so popular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StephMC939 View Post
    So the groups would be:
    1) ENTJ, INTP, ESFP, ISFJ
    2) ESTJ, ISTP, ENFP, INFJ
    3) ENTP, ISFP, ESFJ, INTJ
    4) ESTP, ENFJ, ISTJ, INFP
    Wicked .. i am so in the best group .. I vote for this.
    It would also work with my theory of ..

    Quote Originally Posted by saslou View Post
    Think outside of the box. Put people together who worked in different areas so then each can question the others logic thus possibly getting better results.
    Great idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarenParker View Post
    You know, I've never found socionics to be the least bit accurate. ISFJ is my mirror partner and none of this stuff is true at all. I've known several ISFJs and we've always loved each other and been warm to each other. Never had any of the other stuff happen. I don't understand why socionics is so popular.
    Nah, I hear ya. That negative part about the Mirror relationship I'm not so sure in... I freakin love ESTJs. The first part is true for me though... we always find each others' ideas really interesting. One of my best girlfriends is an ESTJ, and we always keep each other in check... "Oh.... I never saw it that way."

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarenParker View Post
    Let's get married.


    I'm glad you liked it. I thought you might.

    Quote Originally Posted by KarenParker View Post
    I saaaaaid you get as many rooms and tables and chairs as you want. Well, I don't know why you'd want more than 16 chairs. Unless you wanted people to lie down across like, 4 chairs or so so that they can get more comfortable.
    Actually, that's not a bad idea... though I'd suggest couches or something rather than 4 chairs. I've always wanted to experiment with trying to create a more comfortable work environment where people can get into relaxed positions. It might increase creativity and/or productivity for some people.

    I would HATE it if there were a bunch of extroverts in my face all the time. I can't get any work done if there are extroverts around. Did you know they just talk to you the whole time?! How can anyone work like that?!

    And mixing Ns and Ss!? Madness! How will they ever understand each other?!
    LOL. That's my favorite kind of humor. Sounds like you get it... or else you sound like you're joking when you're serious.

    I think I have a better idea.

    Tables of two:
    Promoter-Executor (ESTP)/Planner-Inspector (ISTJ)
    Performer (ESFP)/Caretaker-Protector (ISFJ)
    Supervisor-Implementor (ESTJ)/Action-Driven Problem Solver (ISTP)
    Provider (ESFJ)/Composer-Producer (ISFP)
    Director-Mobilizer (ENTJ)/Conceptualizer (INTP)
    Inventor (ENTP)/Mastermind (INTJ)
    Mentor (ENFJ)/Harmonizer-Clarifier (INFP)
    Inspirer (ENFP)/Foreseer (INFJ)
    I see what you're doing there. Putting each type with their "bookend" letters reversed. I like that pattern, there's definitely some Ni going on in that.

    I'd be concerned that there would be both potential style conflict, and a problem of shared weaknesses. But there's a lot of potential for that to work well, too.

    I have actually noticed several NTPs that clearly have an SFJ side running certain parts of their lives, and several NTJs that clearly have an SFP side running parts of their lives. I had always wondered if it worked the other way around, and it's looking like you've, indeed, clearly got an NTJ side that operates in some parts of your life.

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