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    Quote Originally Posted by Duchessoftheshadows View Post
    What to you screams ENFP posting style? probably what was mentioned earlier right from another poster who said if i went under a different name that i probably wouldn't be infp more E. They mentioned where it seems I improvise as i write and more like I'll add stuff as i go. I do actually do this bit here i didn't even think to put in till now. Is that what your referring too Trinity?

    Could type effect that much, to actually have posting style be an indicator?
    It could be in the sense that you can read primary functions to a degree, I see Ne-Fi in the randomness and adding stuff as you go part, plus the use of emoticons to ensure intent is read correctly, ENFPs are very proficient in that area

    There are patterns in how different types write but it's just an indicator, not gospel.


    Quote Originally Posted by Duchessoftheshadows View Post
    I found some nice links that i want to see if this depicts what introversion and extroversion is.
    The Need for Personal Space - Associated Content
    Up until the part about feeling claustrophobic in crowds I could totally relate. Work generally means being surrounded by people you wouldn't necessarily chose to socialise with and even if you would it's not the kind of environment (generally speaking) where you can let your hair down so it's not going to be as comfortable as snuggling up on your couch at home.

    I am very private and while being in my own space can be very relaxing and calming it's rarely energising, sitting and watching TV for example zaps me cause it doesn't engage me.


    Quote Originally Posted by Duchessoftheshadows View Post
    I agree with most points in this article. What do you say to this;

    "it's not that all introverts are socially anxious, but rather that they just wouldn't understand why you would want to surround yourself with more people when you're already feeling drained."

    For me I know that when I'm totally drained being around people can help me. In the past I would have told friends who were feeling drained to still come out if we had plans under the guise that they'd feel better once they got there cause this is how it works for me, I understand now that isn't necessarily the case for introverts.

    This is something I've posted before to describe what extroversion is to me;

    When in isolation: I enjoy my own company, itís comfortable and I can concentrate on what I want to do and get lost in my head, however, I know that I can withdraw into myself more than is healthy for me if I do this for too long, too much time on my own leads me to feeling slightly depressive and like I'm swimming underwater.

    The healthiest and most productive state for me is when I get out and socialise, even for just a few hours 3-4 times a week, it doesnít have to be substantial and activities can be more effective than being with and talking to people. Problem is I like feeling comfortable so I donít always do this which leads to me feeling down and not wanting to go out which leads me to feeling worse and so on, once I am out and socialising I feel great and want to get out and socialise more often but making myself do this in the first place is the hard part.


    Quote Originally Posted by Duchessoftheshadows View Post
    I actually will feel considerably drained after such events. Or like when i'd got home after school, i would just chill out by slipping in my room for an hour or 2. Then after that i would come out and fill whoever is curious on my day cause i was "recharged enough" to engage again.
    If you do it to relax and get away from stressful situations or boring conversation then I can relate. If you do it because it re-charges you than it's an introvert thing.


    Quote Originally Posted by Duchessoftheshadows View Post
    Does it sound like i have the right idea? Trinity? Lady x?
    Introversion, Shyness, and Social Anxiety: What's The Difference? - Associated Content
    Yup, sounds that way.

    This part is good;

    "Take going to a party as an example. An extrovert can go to a party and come home feeling invigorated. An introvert might go to a party and have a great time, but afterwards need some quiet alone to relax and recharge. A shy person might go, but feel uncomfortable and not able to enjoy themselves very much. Someone with social anxiety, however, may not even be able to bring themselves to walk through the door to get into the party."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinity View Post
    It could be in the sense that you can read primary functions to a degree, I see Ne-Fi in the randomness and adding stuff as you go part, plus the use of emoticons to ensure intent is read correctly, ENFPs are very proficient in that area
    *Can you tell me what you mean by " could be in the sense that you can read primary functions to a degree"
    Thank you so much trinity *hug*. hmm Ne Fi. Oh and yeah i love those emoties hah XDD ^^D ^^P see?


    There are patterns in how different types write but it's just an indicator, not gospel.




    Up until the part about feeling claustrophobic in crowds I could totally relate. Work generally means being surrounded by people you wouldn't necessarily chose to socialise with and even if you would it's not the kind of environment (generally speaking) where you can let your hair down so it's not going to be as comfortable as snuggling up on your couch at home.

    I am very private and while being in my own space can be very relaxing and calming it's rarely energising, sitting and watching TV for example zaps me cause it doesn't engage me.

    I agree with most points in this article. What do you say to this;

    "it's not that all introverts are socially anxious, but rather that they just wouldn't understand why you would want to surround yourself with more people when you're already feeling drained."


    That is pretty true for me. If i have come back from a long day with my friends/family and either want to do something with me when i just got back i will usually say no. It all would depend on how much energy i have after all that. If i'm feeling drained i won't go to another party or event hehe.

    For me I know that when I'm totally drained being around people can help me. In the past I would have told friends who were feeling drained to still come out if we had plans under the guise that they'd feel better once they got there cause this is how it works for me, I understand now that isn't necessarily the case for introverts.

    This is something I've posted before to describe what extroversion is to me;

    When in isolation: I enjoy my own company, itís comfortable and I can concentrate on what I want to do and get lost in my head, however, I know that I can withdraw into myself more than is healthy for me if I do this for too long, too much time on my own leads me to feeling slightly depressive and like I'm swimming underwater.

    The healthiest and most productive state for me is when I get out and socialise, even for just a few hours 3-4 times a week, it doesnít have to be substantial and activities can be more effective than being with and talking to people. Problem is I like feeling comfortable so I donít always do this which leads to me feeling down and not wanting to go out which leads me to feeling worse and so on, once I am out and socialising I feel great and want to get out and socialise more often but making myself do this in the first place is the hard part.




    If you do it to relax and get away from stressful situations or boring conversation then I can relate. If you do it because it re-charges you than it's an introvert thing.

    Well I would do it i guess to get away from no offense to my mother what i as a teenager the discussion i considered boring. You know the " i was shopping today/i saved blank amount of money cause i got these coupons when it would originally cost me blankety blankety blank.

    *she comes running at me with her chatterbox as soon as i got in the door Imagine me going "oh no...where do i run" cause some/most days are just not my days to hear that stuff details and whatnot. Just cause you already did it why do you feel the need to make a discussion about it with everyone who walks across your path mother. Would never say this to her face though hehe. you gotta love moms.*

    That seemed to be a driving factor cause she wouldn't just mention it and be done hehe. She go into very long and drawn out details and repeated the same thing quite a few times.
    I guess I needed to get my energy back from being out and about at school to being able to hear that but even then i'll listen for 5-10 mins after recharging and then politely shoo away...if i can .


    Yup, sounds that way.

    This part is good;

    "Take going to a party as an example. An extrovert can go to a party and come home feeling invigorated. An introvert might go to a party and have a great time, but afterwards need some quiet alone to relax and recharge. A shy person might go, but feel uncomfortable and not able to enjoy themselves very much. Someone with social anxiety, however, may not even be able to bring themselves to walk through the door to get into the party."
    Yeah i can see the whole come home after a nice party and just chill out doing something solitary before bed to kinda wind down/me time. I also am pretty invigorated after a fun engaging party. Boring ones do nothing for me but I always am energized by really deep discussions about philosophical/mysterious things I can go quite awhile on those.
    OrangeAppled said a couple things that resonated
    " I enjoy novelty, bright lights, and hustle & bustle, as an observer, as it stirs my imagination. When it comes to interaction, I get drained very fast though. "

    " and the introvert is drained by outside stimuli and needs to recharge alone."

    And Staytuned7

    " Interacting with other introverts tends to help me "go" for longer, because there seems to be less pressure to talk all the time. Silence in conversation doesn't seem to affect an introvert as much."

    * Definitely agree with ST7 . funny thing this seems to be a recent thing like i'm learning to appreciate silence for regenerative effects.
    I love it when i can be silent with someone. I think i prefer Introversion cause this person that chatty on a bus I was also annoyed by endless talk about what seemed to be nothing. It was annoying but it was also draining me way faster then any discussion i've had and I was actually wanting me time in between bus trips from being out and about. I wasn't getting "me time to recharge " either :steam:...


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    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyGeek View Post


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    Hiya DisneyGeek *glomps dg hehe*
    long time no talk, hope all is well

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    Blame it on the boogie.
    What is Feeling?
    Feeling is primarily a process.....that imparts to the content a definite value in the sense of acceptance or rejection. In the same way that thinking organizes the contents of consciousness under concepts, feeling arranges them according to their value. Feeling, like thinking, is a rational function, since values in general are assigned according to the laws of reason...
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    Question feel i'm more Informing, process focused and Responding. Not initating.where do i fit

    Hmm.
    Kinda confused.

    I also have gone through the functions of type book and I notice I use Te quite alot. I know i'm not directing.

    I don't think it's dominant or aux either but i would think i'm an introvert.
    Could a infp have a really developed Te at the age of under 25?

    Which I'm starting to see i also think i prefer introversion *when drained, i do need to be alone to recharge.Prefer to be alone or doing something low key*
    E versus I was I 56% E 44% on a recent test.

    There i think that describes it pretty good. So pretty much it's the types that have GtG or BtS I can see both especially GtG where they mention where ideas can be like a whirlwind sometimes.
    If i had to fit myself in my own mold i'd say
    I am more Informing, Process focused and Responding. Not initiating.
    I think this is where the trouble is hehe.

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    What is Feeling?
    Feeling is primarily a process.....that imparts to the content a definite value in the sense of acceptance or rejection. In the same way that thinking organizes the contents of consciousness under concepts, feeling arranges them according to their value. Feeling, like thinking, is a rational function, since values in general are assigned according to the laws of reason...
    (Carl Jung, Psychological Types, Chapter XI - Definitions)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duchessoftheshadows View Post
    Hiya DisneyGeek *glomps dg hehe*
    long time no talk, hope all is well

    Sincerely
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    Blame it on the boogie.
    Hey, what up?

    If you said that you get drained and need to be alone, you are probably introverted.

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    My indisputable definitions:

    Extroversion - the mentality that you don't want to miss out on any environmental factors (so you'll sacrifice depth of thought)
    Introversion - the mentality that you don't want to under-analyze anything (so you'll sacrifice noticing environmental factors)

    Extroversion - breadth
    Introversion - depth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan View Post
    My indisputable definitions:

    Extroversion - the mentality that you don't want to miss out on any environmental factors (so you'll sacrifice depth of thought)
    Introversion - the mentality that you don't want to under-analyze anything (so you'll sacrifice noticing environmental factors)

    Extroversion - breadth
    Introversion - depth
    Thank you Evan
    Could you tell me a bit more about the environmental factors? could you mean external involvement, people, activities, involvement in the social area?
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    What is Feeling?
    Feeling is primarily a process.....that imparts to the content a definite value in the sense of acceptance or rejection. In the same way that thinking organizes the contents of consciousness under concepts, feeling arranges them according to their value. Feeling, like thinking, is a rational function, since values in general are assigned according to the laws of reason...
    (Carl Jung, Psychological Types, Chapter XI - Definitions)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duchessoftheshadows View Post
    Thank you Evan
    Could you tell me a bit more about the environmental factors? could you mean external involvement, people, activities, involvement in the social area?
    Sincerely,
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    I mean every possible thing in the environment (this is why people say that extroverts aren't necessarily people people). It could be people, objects, temperature, whatever.

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    I mean every possible thing in the environment (this is why people say that extroverts aren't necessarily people people). It could be people, objects, temperature, whatever.

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    Ahhh interesting. I like your wording better then with that meaning behind it.
    Just makes more sense and doesn't get caught up in confusion.
    Thanks Evan .
    What is Feeling?
    Feeling is primarily a process.....that imparts to the content a definite value in the sense of acceptance or rejection. In the same way that thinking organizes the contents of consciousness under concepts, feeling arranges them according to their value. Feeling, like thinking, is a rational function, since values in general are assigned according to the laws of reason...
    (Carl Jung, Psychological Types, Chapter XI - Definitions)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinity View Post
    Have posted this before;

    After talking about the differences between I and E elsewhere this is what I've come up as the points that stood out to me as exclusively introversion and the opposite of what an extrovert would experience;
    • The idea that you will eventually feel tired and drained even when talking to people whose company you enjoy, the conversation can be enthralling but if it goes on long enough at some point you will retreat into your head and get quiet, or if you can, leave and find your own space to recharge. At the end of socialisation you are less energised then when you started.

    • One of the reasons these conversations are draining is because your preference is to think about what is being said before responding thus you are in a way exerting more internal energy than the average extrovert.

    • In line with thinking before speaking, you do not need to verbalise thoughts in order to fully understand them.

    • You have narrower but deeper interests.

    • Exerting your energy outwardly through social interaction is your kryptonite. Your focus is on conserving energy.


    Other things about disliking small talk, having a rich inner world and needing space etc are things that are not unique to introverts imo as an extrovert who feels the same way.
    Based off of this I'm an extrovert.

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