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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Ashley View Post
    Same. Ni is my life.
    Add another one on the list.

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    Ni

    I get insights that seem to come out of thin air and I have learned to rely on them 0
    I get insights into intrinsic patterns and connections that may not seem linked to the external world. 0
    I reflect on ideas and inner patterns from many perspectives. 0
    I am aware that if I am patient, whatever I am perceiving will become crystal clear and I rely on that one perception as being the data I should trust 0
    I see things as the ultimately can be. 1
    I am energized by and make meaningful connections using visions, images, and symbols 0
    I interpret the intent behind situations, communications, or happenings. 2

    3/35 -8.57%

    I am truly a retard when it comes to intuition. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kra View Post
    Same. For me, Ni runs so unhindered most of the time that it's difficult to get out of my head sometimes.
    Ever wonder why anyone refers to Ne as intuition, or is it just me?
    When I think of true intuition, I think Ni.
    I mean let's face it, coming up with possibilities for using a pencil (Ne)
    is not really intuition.

    I suppose I could start a pissing match thread about it,
    but that is not my intent.
    My intent is a desire for accuracy.


    in·tu·i·tion

    1.
    a. The act or faculty of knowing or sensing without the use of rational processes; immediate cognition.
    b. Knowledge gained by the use of this faculty; a perceptive insight.

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    sorry jag, I'd have to disagree.

    Ne makes the connections that allow for this instant knowledge as well.

    Often the idea presents, then the connections come a few seconds later...then I have to stop and analyze the connections to see if they are accurate.

    Many times the connections are sort of dormant-I'll connect lots of threads with various levels of robustness. Then out of the blue a new piece of input will trigger a cascade and suddenly a whole new concept is born.

    But I see the concept first and only after the fact sort out the connections.

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    I get insights that seem to come out of thin air and I have learned to rely on them[4]
    I get insights into intrinsic patterns and connections that may not seem linked to the external world.[4]
    I reflect on ideas and inner patterns from many perspectives.[3]
    I am aware that if I am patient, whatever I am perceiving will become crystal clear and I rely on that one perception as being the data I should trust[2]
    I see things as the ultimately can be.[4]
    I am energized by and make meaningful connections using visions, images, and symbols[4]
    I interpret the intent behind situations, communications, or happenings.[5]
    There can’t be any large-scale revolution until there’s a personal revolution, on an individual level. It’s got to happen inside first.
    -Jim Morrison

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ne-Monster View Post

    Often the idea presents, then the connections come a few seconds later...then I have to stop and analyze the connections to see if they are accurate.

    Stopping to analyze connections is a conscious act.

    To me, it's conscious vs. unconscious.
    The creation of a possible concept is right up Ne's alley.
    It's all about possibilities.


    Many times the connections are sort of dormant-I'll connect lots of threads with various levels of robustness. Then out of the blue a new piece of input will trigger a cascade and suddenly a whole new concept is born.

    But I see the concept first and only after the fact sort out the connections.
    If you notice, you are focusing on something external. A piece of input.
    That's like a cue from outside yourself. Ni come from inside the self.
    I don't buy that Ne instantly "knows" in the same manner as Ni.
    At the risk of sounding redundant, it's conscious (Ne) vs. unconscious (Ni)
    A conscious process is easy to explain, an unconscious process is not.

    Don't take any of this to mean I think one is better than the other.
    To me, the functions are like tools. Each has a job in which it excels.
    That aside, I still stand by my original comments.
    I think Ni is what a purist would call intuition.
    Shoot me, I'm a purist.


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    Ni

    I get insights that seem to come out of thin air and I have learned to rely on them (1) Once in a while, but I rarely rely on them.

    I get insights into intrinsic patterns and connections that may not seem linked to the external world. (1) Rarely. It even sounds strange.

    I reflect on ideas and inner patterns from many perspectives. (0) Never quite makes it, I have to use other methods.

    I am aware that if I am patient, whatever I am perceiving will become crystal clear and I rely on that one perception as being the data I should trust. (2) Sometimes.

    I see things as they ultimately can be. (1) I'm aware that I'm pretty bad at that.

    I am energized by and make meaningful connections using visions, images, and symbols. (2) Not sure what that meant, so either 1 or 2, depending.

    I interpret the intent behind situations, communications, or happenings. (3) I've started to do this more often.

    Total: 10/40 = 25% as the most inflated estimate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Stopping to analyze connections is a conscious act.

    To me, it's conscious vs. unconscious.
    The creation of a possible concept is right up Ne's alley.
    It's all about possibilities.




    If you notice, you are focusing on something external. A piece of input.
    That's like a cue from outside yourself. Ni come from inside the self.
    I don't buy that Ne instantly "knows" in the same manner as Ni.
    At the risk of sounding redundant, it's conscious (Ne) vs. unconscious (Ni)
    A conscious process is easy to explain, an unconscious process is not.

    Don't take any of this to mean I think one is better than the other.
    To me, the functions are like tools. Each has a job in which it excels.
    That aside, I still stand by my original comments.
    I think Ni is what a purist would call intuition.
    Shoot me, I'm a purist.

    I sort of see what you are saying-the trigger for the cascade came from external-for you guys it just pops up out of nowhere.

    As for Ne "knows" instantly, you'd have to start a threat and ask. Please do, it would be cool. I have been watching Ne-Fi vs Ne-Ti and it is really odd I think and worthy of more inquiries. Sometimes I connect the webs like you suggest, but sometimes the web connects itself only after the idea pops up. I think often the connections are occuring subconsciously and sort of crystallize or bubble up through the conscious.

    Awhile back there was a thread about Ne problem solving. There was some agreement that often when you stop actively "thinking" and just sit quietly for a few seconds, Ne just starts letting solutions bubble forth. It's like shaking the magic eight ball-I ask the question, "flatten" my thoughts for a few seconds, and answers bubble up...."yes, that one is the right answer"

    I got 40% of the Ni test but I dont trust the results as I think I just Ne'd my way through the whole thing.

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    Ni

    I get insights that seem to come out of thin air and I have learned to rely on them 5
    I get insights into intrinsic patterns and connections that may not seem linked to the external world. 1
    I reflect on ideas and inner patterns from many perspectives. 5
    I am aware that if I am patient, whatever I am perceiving will become crystal clear and I rely on that one perception as being the data I should trust 5
    I see things as the ultimately can be. 1
    I am energized by and make meaningful connections using visions, images, and symbols 5
    I interpret the intent behind situations, communications, or happenings. 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ne-Monster View Post
    I sort of see what you are saying-the trigger for the cascade came from external-for you guys it just pops up out of nowhere.
    Well my Ne usage isn't too shabby. 31/40.
    Don't forget, MBTI is nothing but a theory. Flawed, in my opinion.
    Ergo, it's bullshit to me that if one is strong in Ni,
    they would be deficient in Ne.
    That's just too simplistic in thinking for my taste.

    But to answer you, yes, Ni can indeed pop up out of nowhere.
    Many a time it has scared the shit out of me.

    Sometimes I connect the webs like you suggest, but sometimes the web connects itself only after the idea pops up. I think often the connections are occuring subconsciously and sort of crystallize or bubble up through the conscious.
    And that may very well be what's happening.
    Who's to say you are not using both Ne and Ni in your creative process?
    Again, this is a chief complaint of mine re: MBTI.
    I think it stagnates potential.
    In my line of thinking, anything is possible in function order/usage.
    Unorthodoxy is a key to innovation.


    Awhile back there was a thread about Ne problem solving. There was some agreement that often when you stop actively "thinking" and just sit quietly for a few seconds, Ne just starts letting solutions bubble forth. It's like shaking the magic eight ball-I ask the question, "flatten" my thoughts for a few seconds, and answers bubble up...."yes, that one is the right answer"

    I got 40% of the Ni test but I dont trust the results as I think I just Ne'd my way through the whole thing.

    The fact that you brought up "stop actively thinking" and "quiet" sounds like what I do with Ni.
    I have said for years, it's in the silence that all answers come.
    I think some have become too complacent in accepting that Ne is their cat's meow.
    For all they know, their unconscious Ni rocks, but they are mistakenly giving the credit to Ne.

    Anything is possible.

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