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    Default Please tell me how it feels like to use your primary functions in everyday life

    Please point me to the thread if something like this already exists.

    I am still trying to understand the eight functions Fe, Fi, Te, Se,... and would really like to know how it feels like in everyday life for the person using a specific primary or auxiliary function. I am just tired of reading longwinded, too complicated explanations of the functions, wouldn't it be much easier if people who primarily use a certain function just put into simple words what it for example means to be a primary Fi user in their daily lifes, how they perceive things around them, judge other people etc.

    I simply would love to have a collection of eight very readable "experience pieces" about the functions, so that I can understand better the functions that are foreign to me. Would anyone like to share how it feels like to use their primary or auxiliary function?

    I personally could probably best describe my auxiliary function Fe since its effects are most noticeable to me while even though it is my main function Ni is still a bit of a mystery to me. I might add a more detailed account of Fe later, I am just really tired now and must go to sleep.

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    Hm. This is a tough one to answer! I mean, my primary function is such a big part of who I am that it's hard to separate it from everything else (and it's especially hard to separate from my Si - they connect so seamlessly). But I'll try it out, and see if I can leave out the Si-ness.


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    I'm always thinking about the way things should be. There are definitions in my subconscious that come out whenever I see something being done that just isn't "right". And if it isn't right, I feel like it's my duty to try and fix it. Sometimes that makes me come across as arrogant, or just rude. But as long as it helps in the long run.

    I value justice and fairness above all. If I don't think something is being done fairly, I will say so, because it's the right thing to do.

    When people don't take my ideas seriously, it upsets me, because to me, it's business of the utmost importance.

    I try to be objective. Sometimes I'll argue the other side, even if I don't believe it, and often without realizing that I'm playing devil's advocate. The times that I play devil's advocate are often the times when I hear one side of an argument slammed down and I hear no rational argument from the other side. I just want to know MORE, and I want the debate to be fair.

    People have told me that I "don't suffer fools gladly". This is true. When I see people acting in a way that I don't understand, or that seems irrational to me, it frustrates me to no end. (Not sure if that's Te, but whatever.)

    If you want to convince me that something is true, show me an article, or a series of charts, from a credible source. If you tell me a fact that sounds wrong to me, and say that you read it somewhere, a response you might hear from me would be "Where did you find it? Show me." I won't believe you, otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightyear View Post
    I simply would love to have a collection of eight very readable "experience pieces" about the functions, so that I can understand better the functions that are foreign to me. Would anyone like to share how it feels like to use their primary or auxiliary function?
    That sounds just the exact thing I need. I am so bad at reading the strange definitions and trying to understand. This is such a great idea. Thank you!

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    Not sure how typical my version of Ti is, but anyway...

    Ti

    Ti is building up a huge mental model of the world around me inside my head. The mental model is more real to me than the external world. Information comes in and automatically gets checked against what is already known and slotted in if it fits somewhere.

    Sometimes a new piece of information or a new idea requires some parts of the model to be pulled down and rebuilt. Analogy: think of a three dimensional jigsaw puzzle where pieces are continually being slotted in where they fit, but if you get a piece that doesn't fit in anywhere but obviously needs to go in the puzzle, some of the existing pieces are pulled out and rearranged to fit the new piece in. The connections between the pieces are the most important part of the mental model.

    It's what I live for, basically.
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    Extraverted Intuition aka Ne

    I go looking for new things, new ideas, new povs. Once of the reasons I'm on this site is to gain more insight into how other people work. I do the same with other projects, research all kinds of material on a subject, from different authors etc, to get a well-rounded point of view. Meanwhile I pick out what I find useful, and keep in the back of my mind those things that didn't seem useful *yet*. I plug it into what I already know and try to link everything I've learned together, also in not so usual ways. This can give some pretty cooky ideas, but occasionally you'll strike gold that way. The goal is to understand how everything relates to one another in any possible way. The result is an unquenchable thirst for knowledge and new info in order to refine your insights, in every area that draws my attention which at times can make me very chaotic, as there are so many new things on so many areas I wanna assimilate all at once.
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    I'm not even sure if this is an adequate representation of Ne, since like you I'm still trying to get a grip on understanding it, especially Ti which just seems alien to me lol.

    But to carry on from what amargith said, my primary way of seeing world is in connections, I see the world as one big puzzle, the humans within it puzzle me the most, I like to learn about them, to see how they connect into the world around them. I like to look at where they come from, where they are going to, what happened in between, and how it fits into where someone else (totally unrelated to them) is going.

    The same thing happens with any topic that captivates me, it goes from one epiphany to searching for more hidden connections within that topic and more "a ha" moments as things click in to place.

    I like to take something from one place and stick it in another place to see if it will work, if it doesn't work I want to know why, so that I can change it or accept it for what it is. This goes for people too. I like experimenting to gain answers.

    You can often find me staring at a tree for example, wondering where it came from, how long it has stood there, what animals depend upon it for survival, what people 200 years before me did whilst they sat in front of it pondering the same question. Will it be here in 200 more years, what will the world look like around this tree, will an apocolypse have happened, if so how.......until my connections take me elsewhere and I'm looking at the sky, wondering what that will look like, and what it has looked like, and all the people who have stood underneath it........and basically on and on, making no sense, just connecting random things for my own bigger picture.


    If that makes no sense, it's because it's my thought pattern and that makes no sense to me sometimes too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluebell View Post

    Ti

    Ti is building up a huge mental model of the world around me inside my head. The mental model is more real to me than the external world. Information comes in and automatically gets checked against what is already known and slotted in if it fits somewhere.

    Sometimes a new piece of information or a new idea requires some parts of the model to be pulled down and rebuilt. Analogy: think of a three dimensional jigsaw puzzle where pieces are continually being slotted in where they fit, but if you get a piece that doesn't fit in anywhere but obviously needs to go in the puzzle, some of the existing pieces are pulled out and rearranged to fit the new piece in. The connections between the pieces are the most important part of the mental model.
    Wow, I can relate to that (not sure if it is because of my tertiary Ti) but my mental model is all about people. I am constantly trying to figure people around me out, how they function, why they do certain things etc. MBTI is especially helpful since I can put each person in a certain slot ("She is most likely ESxJ" etc) but I am very, very open to new information, if I see any behaviour that doesn't fit in with my original conclusion I will adjust my mental model of this person quickly.

    Ni and Fe

    Since I am very aware of peoples' feelings and characteristics I will adjust my behaviour according to whom I am talking to in order to accomodate them and their needs and make them feel comfortable. For example if I realise that someone is upset I will immediately go into "peaceful mode" or "healing mode" in order to smoothen out the situation and if necessary comfort them.

    I will also not just collect data about people but voice it if I really like a certain behaviour in order to encourage them, make them feel better about themselves and that preferably one day they might display this positive behaviour again (for example: "How you dealt with this annoying customer was amazing! I am sure I would have lost my patience.") However I will always try to stay as sincere as possible in my praise so that it doesn't lose its power.

    I can especially feel my Fe when I am around people that are in some way disadvantaged. Especially while using London Public Transport I am normally rather tough since I try to get to my destination as quickly as possible (London Transport has a bit of a survival of the fittest-feel about it ) however as soon as I see someone who is older, weaker, disabled, pregnant or in any other way disadvantaged it is as if a switch turns in my head and I'll do anything to accomodate them and make them feel better, even if it just means to offer them a seat, make space so that they can walk past me easier etc. This "switch-turning" almost always works immediately, unless I am really, really exhausted. Even if I am in a big hurry I would feel very bad about for example running into an elderly person (while bumping into young and healthy people doesn't really faze me that much, "They'll survive!")

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightyear View Post
    Wow, I can relate to that (not sure if it is because of my tertiary Ti) but my mental model is all about people.
    Oh yeah. I should explain what is in my mental model, lest there is confusion. Mine is modelling everything down from the atomic scale up to the entire universe, from the Big Bang (assuming that theory is actually correct) to the present day, including science, psychology, history, evolution, government and political structures, culture (past and present), ecology, climate/weather, industry, international governance etc etc. All interlinked and interconnected and I can zoom in and out at will.

    I'm interested in people in the abstract but I'm not so interested in people as individuals unless they have some level of introspection and are happy to have discussions about meta-cognition. Edit: Ack, I wrote that badly. That was in terms of Ti. I am interested in people I like, but that's not a Ti thing.
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    Oh man... where to start?

    Well first off I am very much aware of my emotional state at all times. It's like an internal radar. If it changes then an alarm goes off within me, and I can keep track of why and how it changed. I get an emotional reaction from everything in the world, a very specific one actually. This includes to people. Everyone and everything has a specific feel about them, a specific vibe. For me I get consistent vibes from people of the the same a lot of the time, or similar types (like ENTPs and ENFPs, both leading with Ne, I get that "vibe" from them). These vibes are stored within me (with I'm guessing Si), and I can remember how people have been feeling in the past pretty well, and if I compare it to how it is now I can see how they are doing, whether it be that before they were very happy and now they are upset or something else.

    The emotional radar is accurate. I'm not going to doubt it. I have absolute faith in my Fi. I don't just get "vibes" from people though, I "feel" their emotions and "feel" how they are currently doing. When I am around someone I can "feel" how they are doing. If they are communicating or conveying some form of body language it's a lot easier. The way I do this is when I focus on one person then I will start to "feel" myself how they are doing. I can adjust my behavior accordingly to accommodate for people's moods.

    Fi also deals with "morals". I really don't like how that term is thrown around... but I'll take a shot at it. Fi also deals with how YOU, YOURSELF think that something should be. I think it's all interconnected with the emotional radar in some way and having emotional reactions to everything. If something doesn't match up with how I think it should be then I'll take action in some way to help myself feel better around it (yes I do have an emotional reaction). For example one of my "morals" is to treat everyone equally as a human being until they prove you otherwise. There should be no unjustified hate in the world. This is why I have a huge problem with racism and people judging based on people's types (and not their character) and things like that. If I see something like this happen then I have to assert my feelings or else I'll feel pretty bad. For example if I saw someone use a racial slur against someone then I would probably be fuming and go off on them verbally until the message sets in.

    Another thing that Fi makes me is a very VERY subjective person. I don't usually look at things from a detached view, I work the best in general by being attached all of the time. I have specific opinions of everyone, their actions change my views of them, thus changing how much I respect them etc. This is why I'll go to the ends of the earth for some people, and could really care less if some others would be dead or not. The only way that I am not totally subjective is if Ne gets turned on, and I realize things could be different in some way, then I get ideas following that. So in a way I am very subjective, and in another way I am detached and observing how things could be different.

    That's all I've got.
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    Introverted Sensing aka Si

    For me, I'm constantly looking for predictable patterns in my life in order to create a reliable routine to be more efficient. There are so many things in life that I have to consistently do, and so many mundane maintenance type things that I feel I can't ignore. So, I strive to find methods to get those things done in an orderly fashion, which is by creating schedules and budgets for myself. Once I see a predictable pattern in something, I'm swift to find a way to implement something into my life that takes advantage of it. The problem with this, though, is I tend to overdo it, and most things have diminishing returns. This is why I've been learning to use my routine creating skills to put more variety into my life while still keeping a routine.

    I'm constantly thinking about the things that will be expected from me 1 week, 1 month, 6 months, a year, 5 years, 10 years from now. This is mostly thinking about the way things are traditionally done and what's required to sustain life. In my mind, this is focusing on building a strong work ethic, acquiring an education, becoming experienced in romantic relations to lower the hindrances caused by social interactions, planning out efficient entertainment and basically thinking over the long term in a linear fashion. My focus is on self-sufficiency. Things that help me now won't always be there, so I must learn how to do things on my own. This results in a great deal of autonomy, but at the same time, allows my pride to become a detriment to my well being.

    That is Si focused on the present and using information from the past to understand the future for the intent of structure. The focus on the past comes when I'm able to relive vivid sensational experiences in my head which are so intensely strong that I yearn for that event in a way that forces me to attempt to recreate it in the present. An example of me relying on Si would be last night at a park to see fireworks. On the way back to my car, I didn't know where it was. However, if I stopped and focused, I could recreate the experience of pulling into the parking lot in my head. I remembered driving down the main road, coming up to guards, turning to the left, driving over a sidewalk, passing one row of 2 sets of rows of cars, then passing another single row of cars before pulling to the right and parking in between two large vehicles. In doing that, I was able to reassure myself that I was near my car and walked toward it.


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