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    Quote Originally Posted by Orobas View Post
    Same rules as the "how much Fe do you use thread" 0 if never ever and 5 if it is like breathing for you.

    4Te 1: I objectively define the scope of problems
    2Te 2: I set or identify measurable goals for my efforts and the efforts of other people
    3Te 3: I logically determine sequences and priorities needed to efficiently complete a task of manage a program
    3Te 4: I communicate concisely and logically the steps necessary to reach a goal, complete a task, or solve a problem: Take step 1, then step2, then step 3
    3Te 5: I use logic to convince others to work toward a goal or to accept my position in a discussion
    4Te 6: I objectively measure the external world to achieve measurable goals
    2Te 7: I turn effective procedures and processes into performance standards, rules, and regulations
    3Te 8: I evaluate performance against measurable goals and standards
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    31/40 - 77.5%

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    Te 1: I objectively define the scope of problems - 4.5 (how do I know if it's objective?)
    Te 2: I set or identify measurable goals for my efforts and the efforts of other people - 3.75
    Te 3: I logically determine sequences and priorities needed to efficiently complete a task of manage a program - 5 (I determine the sequences, but that doesn't mean I'm diligent enough to stick to them; also, while I do actually do this at times, I also like just working in the flow of things and letting the pieces all come together as I go, so...)
    Te 4: I communicate concisely and logically the steps necessary to reach a goal, complete a task, or solve a problem: Take step 1, then step2, then step 3 - 5 (absolutely)
    Te 5: I use logic to convince others to work toward a goal or to accept my position in a discussion - 5 (mhmm)
    Te 6: I objectively measure the external world to achieve measurable goals - 4.5 (once again, that word "objectively")
    Te 7: I turn effective procedures and processes into performance standards, rules, and regulations - 4.5 (yeah, I do stuff like this, but I also tell my self to chill the fuck out about it and not overdo it sometimes, so...)
    Te 8: I evaluate performance against measurable goals and standards - 5 (this is not all I measure my goals against, though, so...)

    37.25/40 = 93.13%

    I dunno, just like with other cognitive function tests I've taken, I haven't been all too happy with the descriptions used for Te.

    My problem with them is that Te is by no means all I use, so to say that I do these things, it would be like saying that I do them at the exclusion of the other things I do.

    But I don't.

    I use the above things when I feel they are necessary, but I most certainly do use them at those times, and feel like it's very natural and easy for me to use it.

    I think some of the Te mannerisms described above sometimes conflict with my Ni's ability/desire to look at things another way, my well developed Fi's more feeling-oriented approach, or just my general work ethic.

    As such, if there's any one function that gets understated numerically relative to my actual ease of use, it's probably Te.

    But if the test is not testing simply ease of use, but amount of usage, then I suppose the number is rather accurate.

    I just think that my actual usage number is lower than my ease of usage number, as I choose not to look solely through a Te box when I don't believe or feel it's necessary.

    EDIT: Additionally, I feel that the problem with functional tests is that they test for the usage of a single function as if that function is used separately from other functions.

    To be more accurate, there should be a second level of functional usage tests for once a person's type has likely been determined, that will take the particular use of each tested function into account with regards to how it generally interacts with the suspected type's other functions.

    I know that, for myself, what I believe to be the principal use of my Te -- to sort out what is realistic from the possibilities generated by Ni (i.e., to either shape Ni's possibilities into realizable goals, steps, plans, or to simply judge Ni's possibilities as to whether they are actually realistic trends, patterns, interpretations) -- was not even mentioned in this test.
    Last edited by Zarathustra; 05-05-2010 at 12:22 PM.

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    Te 1: I objectively define the scope of problems :2
    Te 2: I set or identify measurable goals for my efforts and the efforts of other people :1
    Te 3: I logically determine sequences and priorities needed to efficiently complete a task of manage a program :3
    Te 4: I communicate concisely and logically the steps necessary to reach a goal, complete a task, or solve a problem: Take step 1, then step2, then step 3. :3
    Te 5: I use logic to convince others to work toward a goal or to accept my position in a discussion :5
    Te 6: I objectively measure the external world to achieve measurable goals :1
    Te 7: I turn effective procedures and processes into performance standards, rules, and regulations :1
    Te 8: I evaluate performance against measurable goals and standards :1

    IT'S OVER 16.9999999.......
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    Te 1: I objectively define the scope of problems - 3
    Te 2: I set or identify measurable goals for my efforts and the efforts of other people - 2 (especially for other people, in casu my students)
    Te 3: I logically determine sequences and priorities needed to efficiently complete a task of manage a program - 0 (I jump right in with all sorts of ideas)
    Te 4: I communicate concisely and logically the steps necessary to reach a goal, complete a task, or solve a problem: Take step 1, then step2, then step 3 - 0 (I wish I could do that.)
    Te 5: I use logic to convince others to work toward a goal or to accept my position in a discussion - 4
    Te 6: I objectively measure the external world to achieve measurable goals - 1
    Te 7: I turn effective procedures and processes into performance standards, rules, and regulations - 0
    Te 8: I evaluate performance against measurable goals and standards - 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
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    I dunno, just like with other cognitive function tests I've taken, I haven't been all too happy with the descriptions used for Te.

    My problem with them is that Te is by no means all I use, so to say that I do these things, it would be like saying that I do them at the exclusion of the other things I do.

    But I don't.

    I use the above things when I feel they are necessary, but I most certainly do use them at those times, and feel like it's very natural and easy for me to use it.

    I think some of the Te mannerisms described above sometimes conflict with my Ni's ability/desire to look at things another way, my well developed Fi's more feeling-oriented approach, or just my general work ethic.

    As such, if there's any one function that gets understated numerically relative to my actual ease of use, it's probably Te.

    But if the test is not testing simply ease of use, but amount of usage, then I suppose the number is rather accurate.

    I just think that my actual usage number is lower than my ease of usage number, as I choose not to look solely through a Te box when I don't believe or feel it's necessary.

    EDIT: Additionally, I feel that the problem with functional tests is that they test for the usage of a single function as if that function is used separately from other functions. To be more accurate, there should be a second level of functional usage tests for once a person's type has likely been determined, that will take the particular use of each tested function into account with regards to how it generally interacts with the suspected type's other functions.

    I know that, for myself, what I believe to be the principal use of my Te -- to sort out what is realistic from the possibilities generated by Ni (i.e., to either shape Ni's possibilities into realizable goals, steps, plans, or to simply judge Ni's possibilities as to whether they are actually realistic trends, patterns, interpretations) -- was not even mentioned in this test.
    It strikes me that this Te description is very relevant to an ESTJ style use of Te. In the original book under each catagory it actually broke out ways to improve how you use the function-by observing the authors suggestions, you could see contamination from other functions.

    Also-the need for reality-that is Se correct?

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    Te 1: I objectively define the scope of problems
    0
    Te 2: I set or identify measurable goals for my efforts and the efforts of other people
    0
    Te 3: I logically determine sequences and priorities needed to efficiently complete a task of manage a program
    2
    Te 4: I communicate concisely and logically the steps necessary to reach a goal, complete a task, or solve a problem: Take step 1, then step2, then step 3
    0
    Te 5: I use logic to convince others to work toward a goal or to accept my position in a discussion
    5
    Te 6: I objectively measure the external world to achieve measurable goals
    0
    Te 7: I turn effective procedures and processes into performance standards, rules, and regulations
    0
    Te 8: I evaluate performance against measurable goals and standards
    0

    7/40

    So this seems to indicate that other than Ne I don't use extroverted functions...
    Ne > Ti > Si >> Te > Se >> Fe > Fi > Ni
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orobas View Post
    It strikes me that this Te description is very relevant to an ESTJ style use of Te.
    My description or their description?

    I believe you were talking about their description.

    If that's the case, I would agree, and would probably add that all the descriptions are probably a little biased to their manifestation in a dominant position.

    This was probably the most obvious case, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orobas
    In the original book under each catagory it actually broke out ways to improve how you use the function-by observing the authors suggestions, you could see contamination from other functions.
    I would really like to see that.

    What book is it from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orobas
    Also-the need for reality-that is Se correct?
    You know, I've played around with that idea, but I've never really seen it discussed much, nor have I discussed it with others.

    The only thoughts I've seen on the matter was some stuff Tater scribbled on Jag's (?) wall, about inferior Se informing dominant Ni, and inferior Si informing dominant Ne.

    I certainly am highly aware of, fluent with, and interested in real world data (economic, primarily, but in general, too), but I've always figured it to be more of a Te thing.

    I'd say it's driven primarily by two highly related motivations:

    1. To have my thoughts be in accord with reality.
    2. To be successful at whatever it is I'm trying to accomplish.

    So, I dunno, what do you think?

    Te? Se? Both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    What book is it from?
    Functions of Type: Activities to ... - Google Books

    I recommend Linda Berens's book as well:
    Dynamics of personality type ... - Google Books

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    Te 1: I objectively define the scope of problems 4
    Te 2: I set or identify measurable goals for my efforts and the efforts of other people 4
    Te 3: I logically determine sequences and priorities needed to efficiently complete a task of manage a program 4
    Te 4: I communicate concisely and logically the steps necessary to reach a goal, complete a task, or solve a problem: Take step 1, then step2, then step 3 5
    Te 5: I use logic to convince others to work toward a goal or to accept my position in a discussion 5
    Te 6: I objectively measure the external world to achieve measurable goals 4
    Te 7: I turn effective procedures and processes into performance standards, rules, and regulations 3
    Te 8: I evaluate performance against measurable goals and standards 4

    33/40- I did better with my aux over my dom? hmm.....

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