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Eck, getting very annoyed.

EblingMis

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I've been doing the MBTI test regularly for three years since I was around 17. I've done some research but i'm at best a dabbler and a dilettante. I started off as INFJ but last month my result started coming up as INTJ. I've made some changes in my life and I do feel an emotional change within me, and I don't put much weight into the whole thing in the first place, but just having my type changed has kept my mind occupied with MBTI and it's starting to make me obsess over it. I've taken various tests to confirm it, and it seems to bring up the same results. The high percentage of I N and J are expected, and i'm sure I have inferior Si and Primary Ni, but the middle two tend to shift around quite a bit. This is strange as i've been testing high for T lately, when I used to test high for F.

Now what I ask of you is this. Can anyone help assess me, or perhaps take me to a quiz where the answers aren't so obvious? I still cringe whenever I see questions like "I'm intuitive" or "I use logic and rational thought to solve problems" because I could easily be so unconsciously biased towards one answer because that's how I want to be or want to be perceived as, but i'm not sure what I really am.

Also, I understand that individuals with certain psychological disorders cannot be properly assessed. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder last year, as well symptoms of major depression and a possibility of some degree of narcissism (which would explain why I'm obsessing over a simple personality test, heh) but I've come to control everything to a certain extent. Even then, I find it annoying to be ostracized from yet another thing just because I was labeled with treatable disorders from a doctor. Even then, isn't the MBTI assessment more or less a label? It feels like a quantifier of what cannot be quantified; however, I digress, and in a way, I just want to be specifically and accurately typed just so I can have some sense of normality and stability.

Any help would be appreciated!
 

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what kind of help do you need you seem to have made up your mind pretty wrongly already ?

MBTI is not being to be adjusted to
 

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I'm sorry, but I think you misunderstood. I'm just confused because I've been getting the INTJ result lately but i'm not sure if that's accurate because the questions in MBTI assessments are so straightforward. I was wondering if some form of assessment exists where the questions aren't so obvious. It just seems strange that I used to get such high F results but now i've been getting T. I'm not sure if i'm answering honestly or not....
 

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No I didnt misunderstood, you just think that you are in the right forum.

If you do the mbti test, you know who you are. If you do it to get to know who you are, you are on the dark path of the force.

If you want people to tell you who you are, join up here, make a welcome in the welcome forums and get to know people. Let people get to know you and then after some time ask again.

Cause thats how it works, mbti has no inherent logical system that explains yourself, cause you will be perceived differently by every person you will ever meet in your life that makes all the fun. mbti is an idea, not a mathematical construct. Join us here and you maybe find out, if you give us a chance to get to know you.
 

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Haha, it's silly of you to assume i'm an American, I'm Canadian!

Also, I do really think you misunderstood as I'm not putting too much weight on it. Like I said, I believe the MBTI assessment is a very quantifying sort of assessment and I don't want to be defined as an INFJ or INTJ or whatever. I understand that different people will perceieve me differently in life, but you're confusing the desire to know myself with the desire to know my real result. I just have a sort of obsession with closure, even when it's with something that I feel is trivial and useless in the real world. The problem with me is that I know who I am a bit too well, and it's a bit problematic with everything I try. I just came in here to ask a simple question but accidentally did so in a very dramatic way which resulted in me being insulted by being called an American :D

Thank you for your input though!
 

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Speaking of following the wrong leaders, recent studies have shown that Western Europe has been leaning more towards the right lately because they're being so easily conditioned by the media and disaster pornography (not porn in the literal sense, look it up). I personally think Americans are moving in a better direction than most Europeans even though i'm not even a big fan of Obama.
 

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I'm sorry, but I think you misunderstood. I'm just confused because I've been getting the INTJ result lately but i'm not sure if that's accurate because the questions in MBTI assessments are so straightforward. I was wondering if some form of assessment exists where the questions aren't so obvious. It just seems strange that I used to get such high F results but now i've been getting T. I'm not sure if i'm answering honestly or not....

Believe me, I've had the same problem. I think that I subconsiously pick the answers to the test of what I want to be or what I think I am. It's hard to find a good test that isn't so straightforward. I've made various threads on various forums, but people end up giving up on me. They just don't know what I am. The good thing for you is that you know you're an IN_J already. Take a look at this: Definition of cognitive functions | To Civilize Nature. Look at Fe, Fi, Te, and Ti. Do you relate to more of the feeling (F) functions, or the thinking (T) functions? Was there a significant event in your life that happened before your letters switched? Was there a traumatic event or something?
 

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Speaking of following the wrong leaders, recent studies have shown that Western Europe has been leaning more towards the right lately because they're being so easily conditioned by the media and disaster pornography (not porn in the literal sense, look it up). I personally think Americans are moving in a better direction than most Europeans even though i'm not even a big fan of Obama.

Thats not recent studies that recent election results. And its nice to see that you totally ignore my help.

Expect no help from me no further.
 

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Thank you for less callous reply DisneyGeek! I was about to give up on this forum but I see there is still some hope.

There was indeed a traumatic event in my life before I shifted from INFJ to INTJ. Though I don't want to go into too much detail, I had a nervous breakdown, and analysing things from my current perspective, I became, from the MBTI perspective, a corrupted ESFP during that period. After that happened, and being able to reconcile with the root of my problems, which i'll go ahead and say was my father, I've come to become more cold, rational and logical, but I do retain the sense of compassion and altruism for people. Now I wonder if I've simply refined my tertiary Ti function, or if I've had an internal facelift where my fabricated auxiliary Fe function has been replaced with my actual Te, and I was using my tertiary Fi to simply cope with my issues.

Hehe, was that any good for an amateur? I apologize but it all sounds like babbling to me. I will read the link you have sent me as it seems to put things in clearer terms.
 

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Thats not recent studies that recent election results. And its nice to see that you totally ignore my help.

Expect no help from me no further.

Pardon my previous hostility, but thank you for the correction and I do appreciate your help. I would, however, have been less caustic if you were less so as well. I understand if you are offended and I concede to the hostilities either I, or you may have started. Assuming I am an American is a pet peeve of mine that I especially do not appreciate from Western Europeans, as I know many who I hold in high regard, but tend to be overshadowed by the snooty, racist, and snobbish majority. Forgive me, if you are not among the latter.
 

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no thats not the point.

The point is that you ignored me saying that mbti is bonzo for people who dont know who they are. and that is international truth
 

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And, as I said quite clearly, I am almost overly familiar with myself. I was simply asking for a more subtle online assessment to properly type myself without the possible bias of my conscious thoughts to deter a proper assessment. Once that was done and through, I would use my conscious thoughts to analyse my assessment properly without any sort of doubt in my mind and in turn, come to my most prized possession, the result.

Again, I apologize if I offended your sensibilities.
 

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Also, through a secondary possibility I was able to process the data I compiled through social interaction as an anonymous person on a message board to properly asssess my true type. It wasn't a simple coincidence or impulsive whim that I registered an account here when I have no actual interest in interacting here.

Thank you for your time!
 

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You ask us to analyze your type online subtly to help you with your calculations about your own over familiarity of yourself.

I really would like to help, but I have to get to know you first and this takes some time. All good things need time...
 

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Also, through a secondary possibility I was able to process the data I compiled through social interaction as an anonymous person on a message board to properly asssess my true type. It wasn't a simple coincidence or impulsive whim that I registered an account here when I have no actual interest in interacting here.

Thank you for your time!

Thats something we can work with ! Cu you on the forums !
 

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Thank you for less callous reply DisneyGeek! I was about to give up on this forum but I see there is still some hope.

There was indeed a traumatic event in my life before I shifted from INFJ to INTJ. Though I don't want to go into too much detail, I had a nervous breakdown, and analysing things from my current perspective, I became, from the MBTI perspective, a corrupted ESFP during that period. After that happened, and being able to reconcile with the root of my problems, which i'll go ahead and say was my father, I've come to become more cold, rational and logical, but I do retain the sense of compassion and altruism for people. Now I wonder if I've simply refined my tertiary Ti function, or if I've had an internal facelift where my fabricated auxiliary Fe function has been replaced with my actual Te, and I was using my tertiary Fi to simply cope with my issues.

Hehe, was that any good for an amateur? I apologize but it all sounds like babbling to me. I will read the link you have sent me as it seems to put things in clearer terms.

Well, I don't know. I'm an amateur myself. ;) Are you sure that you just haven't "locked away" your Fe to avoid being hurt? Perhaps this cold and rational side of you is not healthy. Or maybe you were unhealthy before and now you're healthy. I don't know much about MBTI myself, and entropie, you aren't really helping. I suggest that you look around the forums and learn some MBTI. Use the search button and see if people have similar situations. Wait until someone helpful comes around to respond. I may post back later, but now I'm off to bed. 'Night!
 
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