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    Thank you Nightie

    Dane: You said it in your edit. Good work!

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    The accolades go to you.

    An altar; one without (undignified) sacrifice as precept.


    Thank you, Wildcat.

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    I cannot hear anything at work *trauma*

    dane, I think I see where you're driving at. As much as the silence defines the music, the notes define the silence too, so music, speech, is more than one alone. x-o-x becomes notes. Is that what you mean?

    But if we take that one step further, where do the notes interact, if not in silence?

    We could take silence to be the blank score. The notes exist in the folds of silence, and merely mark it.

    Time and music, not as flows... I'm not sure where that comes from.. Pray explain.



    Edit: No more popcorn. Just saw his/her edit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aelan View Post
    I cannot hear anything at work *trauma*

    dane, I think I see where you're driving at. As much as the silence defines the music, the notes define the silence too, so music, speech, is more than one alone. x-o-x becomes notes. Is that what you mean?

    But if we take that one step further, where do the notes interact, if not in silence?

    We could take silence to be the blank score. The notes exist in the folds of silence, and merely mark it.

    Time and music, not as flows... I'm not sure where that comes from.. Pray explain.



    Edit: No more popcorn. Just saw his/her edit.
    Sorry aelan.. I did not find the flow thing post. Maybe it was in the other blog.. I have to see. I shall take a hike first.. a frosty-snowy winter day. It is not yet spring here.. only in Hong Kong. Lucky you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nightning View Post
    Aelan's on tempo rubato

    Duet would be nice. *nods head*
    No. she's not on tempo rubato. she's on tempo aelan. that's precisely why i have to be on rubato when i play with her. it all goes wonky otherwise.

    Will go listen to some night music.

    digression: x and o together form crosses and noughts. xxxooo. X is gyfu, the celtic rune for gift, meaning: kiss.

    noughts and crosses hence mean love.

    and there's another link!

    You gave me hyacinths first a year ago;
    They called me the hyacinth girl.
    Yet when we came back, late, from the Hyacinth garden,
    Your arms full, and your hair wet, I could not
    Speak, and my eyes failed, I was neither
    Living nor dead, and I knew nothing,
    Looking into the heart of light, the silence.

    --T.S Eliot, The Wasteland

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    In order?


    Let go, let go, let go.

    Let go.




    Ok. Hard to catch that silence, though. Because to mark time with silence is hard, for me.


    Like a blank canvas on which you can draw? Like time and silence. Can notes interact not on silence? Silence...then something begins to play. A long, continuous note...then something begins to play. It is still time, rather than silence, that is the canvas? Just like the musical score: 5 lines, but you can choose to leave it empty or with notes. Then the player decide the time. I don't play, so I can only guess.


    If I am to choose, I would rather be deaf than blind. That is how unschooled my ears are. So I cannot, Night. Are the gaps intentionally there, to form the soft repetition? It reminds me of the chain gang.


    This will sound stupid, but I want to know. How do you get music? I realise that I listen to the words (and so you know its not classical instrumental) more than the melody. If I listen to the tune, I miss the words.

    Appreciation of classical music - is it an acquired taste? If so, does acquisition means the recognition of the patterns? Recognition not as in memory, recall. But as in seeing the patterns, discerning something coherent. Because, for example, I like the Schindler's list because I can hear something...regular? Some others just go by me too fast.

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    Dane,

    the piece which Night gave wasn't classical. it was jazz. In a way, jazz is more difficult to understand than classical music. Classical was built around perfect 4ths and 5ths (ie, what sounds most pleasing to the ear), whereas jazz was built on dissonance.

    The idea being that assymetry, too, is a form of beauty. Hence the dissonance (abruptness of sound), the 9ths and 13ths. So it's a slip-sliding thing, of what we call grace notes and slip notes; the topography of jazz is never constant, nor solid, the way rock, classical and other genres are. It is the music of potential, that it can be this chord, or this other chord.

    That is why its silence speaks more than its music.

    What will it be in the next instant? before the bassist/musician plays, you do not know. Unlike in classical/rock, where more often than not, you can intuite the patterns and know if the guy is going to play up or down the keys.

    standard pop patterns:

    1645, 1545, 5164. etc. You can fit the bassline into almost any pop song, and it won't make a difference.

    Rather difficult to show what i mean without a keyboard though...so i can fully get your perplexity.

    between deafness and blindness...hm. I am visual by nature. So i would choose to be blind.

    (is there any way to merge this thread with wildcat's blog??)
    You gave me hyacinths first a year ago;
    They called me the hyacinth girl.
    Yet when we came back, late, from the Hyacinth garden,
    Your arms full, and your hair wet, I could not
    Speak, and my eyes failed, I was neither
    Living nor dead, and I knew nothing,
    Looking into the heart of light, the silence.

    --T.S Eliot, The Wasteland

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    Quote Originally Posted by elfinchilde View Post
    No. she's not on tempo rubato. she's on tempo aelan. that's precisely why i have to be on rubato when i play with her. it all goes wonky otherwise.

    Will go listen to some night music.

    digression: x and o together form crosses and noughts. xxxooo. X is gyfu, the celtic rune for gift, meaning: kiss.

    noughts and crosses hence mean love.

    and there's another link!

    You are right as always. A kiss.

    Gyfu is an original Scandinavian word. One of the few that is left.
    It came to Ireland via the Vikings.

    Of the Viking mother line. The one represented by the early Goths.

    A gyfta was originally a ransom paid by the father for the stolen daughter.
    Ultimately: A promise of the ransom.

    A gift woman: released by ransom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    You are right as always. A kiss.

    Gyfu is an original Scandinavian word. One of the few that is left.
    It came to Ireland via the Vikings.

    Of the Viking mother line. The one represented by the early Goths.

    A gyfta was originally a ransom paid by the father for the stolen daughter.
    Ultimately: A promise of the ransom.

    A gift woman: released by ransom.
    How wonderful!! Something new! i never knew that! love my wildcat! he's wise, and knowledgeable.
    You gave me hyacinths first a year ago;
    They called me the hyacinth girl.
    Yet when we came back, late, from the Hyacinth garden,
    Your arms full, and your hair wet, I could not
    Speak, and my eyes failed, I was neither
    Living nor dead, and I knew nothing,
    Looking into the heart of light, the silence.

    --T.S Eliot, The Wasteland

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