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    Keeping things open without dying of a stroke in the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chloee View Post
    ...what do you think is there any advantage in being a P, ... except being more fun, spontaneous, easy-going and open-minded (I know those are real advantages but EXCEPT that!)... because when it comes to keeping job, not living in complete mess and clutter, have ANY plan and stick to it- it sounds like Js have much more advantages, and those are important stuff in todays world.
    I know P can achieve much if is interested, but what about stuff we don't like so much but they are still a must.
    The fact that I'm an ENFP and I dislike routine, any authority, any rules, social norms and so, doesn't stop the whole world functioning as it is so I still have to do it.
    Is P sometimes (when strong) pure unresposibility in a bad way, lack of maturity?
    we are great at coming up with quick solutions under pressure.

    we can work in chaotic environments because we don't need structure in the same way as a j.

    i am certain that we have a whole lot less stress.

    and...i'll think of more in a sec.
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    Perhaps it's more so that Ps seek/prefer more chaotic environments. MBTI is not directly related to the ability of any individual, I know this is a huge cliche, but if you put your mind to it, you can do anything. However, given that Ps seek flexibility, They are more likely to have more experience in handling tasks of an unpredictable nature.
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    Oh, yeah.. and juggling about a billion projects at once. That's kind of cool, too.

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    And besides all of the earlier stated things: P-ness just sounds way cooler than J-ness
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    -juggling multiple things in life
    -go with the flow
    -gimme a few peeps and a timer that tells me that the earth is gonna explode at 12 tonight, and see how i change technological evolutions into a revolution
    -make the most of what you got

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    Quote Originally Posted by King-Of-Despair View Post
    There is a huge variety of opportunities to be creative, when you walk down the street, you could do it backwards just to see what happens. You don't know what could possibly come about from doing that, you might be caught by a secret camera and end up on the news. I admit, the opportunity doesn't come along very often, but it's just like going to the casino, or placing bets on horses or whatever animal suits your fancy.
    You are missing the point of the thread

    1. I don't have time to walk backwards in street
    2. I really don't want to be in news

    and why I don't want / don't have time to do that is because I live in society where time is money, and J is wanted. So I know how to be P without fitting in, but problem is how to succeed in Js careers as P, because you need to be J before you have oportunity to be P.
    In medicine example, I must study for yrs before I got oportunity to be creative. But okay, I didn't pick good career, but from some reason I'm sticking to it, so maybe I'll find my p-way in it. If I go off the internet NOW and open some book.


    I'm finding this hard to actually explain... alright, say you go to a casino with a J friend, they decided to keep their well earned cash and stick with what they find to be familiar, you decide that you want to risk it all, so you risk, risk away. At the end of the night, you could have more money, or less money than your J counterpart, but in the long run your winnings and losings balance out, you've both likely arrived at the same place, you just traversed upon a different path.
    You can risk like that when you're 20 and don't have any obligations. But I'm thinking of future, and when you're over 30, ...you will (probably) have too much obligations to risk money and stuff, because, again - life is more J today.


    It seems like idealism is just a deluded version of optimism though...
    Yep, that's why I said idealism, it's deluded.

    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post

    In practice, sometimes it seems like the only real advantage is in not pissing off other Ps.
    Lol, probably. And you're kinda of relaxation to other Js who "use" you for fun and then go back to their's plans


    Quote Originally Posted by Engler View Post
    And, unfortunately, most Perceivers spend their time operating within the confines of society, doing jobs fit for more routine-oriented individuals (such as Judgers).

    Welcome to the world of "Become a J, or go away."
    Yeah, true.

    Quote Originally Posted by greed View Post
    I can also rightly say that I've done rocket science and became bored of it
    Lol, well... I kinda can relate to that.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    we are great at coming up with quick solutions under pressure.

    we can work in chaotic environments because we don't need structure in the same way as a j.

    i am certain that we have a whole lot less stress.
    well, it's true but enviorment is mostly J... and stress? well I have huge amount of stress because smallest requirments of J are too much for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChosenOne View Post
    Yeah, like I said, it does depend on the work. Like you said, Ps would be better at artistic/creative pursuits. But overall in this world, the desk/office/corporate/brute force jobs which Js are better at far outnumber the creative/artistic/performing/spontaneous jobs that Ps would be better at.
    Yeah, funny thing is I can do the boring work which most other people don't like. I don't care how boring it is, if it's not an interactive job, then I can do it all day and I'll do a good job.
    I've run into this wall several times during my careers. I do great with creative or non-repetitive aspects of a job ... but repetition gets to me and wears me down, especially when it is a mundane type of task. Fortunately, I've found a career in software engineering that offers a pretty diverse set of problems to be solved ... and I can automate much of the repetition. Still, the J does come in very handy and I'm glad I cultivated some J skills in the military. They don't come naturally, but they are very helpful nonetheless. For the really mundane tasks however, I have ritalin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    And besides all of the earlier stated things: P-ness just sounds way cooler than J-ness
    that's why you switched back to Pness?

    so your Pness is more appealing to you than being a good match with your infj girlfriend ? Fair enough!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Engler View Post
    The issue with spontaneous adaptability is that, in today's society, it is becoming increasingly less necessary.

    And, unfortunately, most Perceivers spend their time operating within the confines of society, doing jobs fit for more routine-oriented individuals (such as Judgers).

    Welcome to the world of "Become a J, or go away."
    Morel ike J OR DIE!

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