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    Default Xe vs. Xi: Discriminating word pairs

    This is a thread for people to contribute their experience (please, no armchair theorizing!) with the differences between the introverted and extroverted directions of each of the functions in the form of word pairs. The idea is to distill our collective experience to provide a feel for how the functions actually play out as a supplement to the abstract descriptions and flawed tests.

    Go ahead and specify if you think a word pair is only relevant in conjunction with another function.

    I'll edit this OP to include contributions I don't disagree with as they come in.

    Ne vs. Ni

    Springy vs. dogged
    Cognizant vs. starry-eyed
    Including vs. excluding
    Observing vs. envisioning
    Chromatic vs. wraithlike
    Ever-inquisitive vs. inquisitive-then-satisfied
    From the one to the many vs. from the many to the one

    Te vs. Ti

    No-nonsense vs. academic (in conjunction with dominant or auxiliary N)
    Marshaling vs. analytical
    Organizing vs. piercing
    Accomplishing vs. reflecting
    Dominance vs. jurisprudence

    Se vs. Si

    Promoting vs. retaining
    Intemperate vs. temperate
    Direct vs. indirect
    Photographic vs. derived (impressionistic)
    Expansive vs. habitual
    Noticing vs. knowing
    Awareness vs. recall

    Fe vs. Fi

    Soothing vs. championing
    Appropriate vs. sincere
    World-then-ego vs. ego-then-world
    Norms vs. ideals
    Harmonic vs. certifying
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    Noticing vs Knowing

    Fe vs Fi

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    Se
    Promoting
    Intemperate
    Direct
    Photographic
    Expansive

    Si
    Retaining
    Temperate
    Indirect
    Derived (Impressionistic)
    Habitual

    Ne
    Including
    Observing
    Chromatic
    Ever-inquisitive
    From the one to the many

    Ni
    Excluding
    Envisioning
    Wraithlike
    Inquisitive-then-satisfied
    From the many to the one

    Te
    Marshalling
    Organizing
    Accomplishing
    Dominance

    Ti
    Analytical
    Piercing
    Reflecting
    Jurisprudence

    Fe
    Soothing
    Appropriate
    World-then-ego
    Norms

    Fi
    Championing
    Sincere
    Ego-then-world
    Ideals
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackwater View Post
    Te
    (...)
    Dominance

    Ti
    (...)
    Jurisprudence
    I like where this word pair is going but are you sure jurisprudence is the precise word you mean?

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    Here are some Fe-Fi pairs from another forum:
    Fe is the lava that boils out.
    Fi is the fire inside that started it all.

    Fe sings.
    Fi composes.

    Fe asserts itself.
    Fi just IS.

    Fe is the bird.
    Fi is the song.

    Fe is contagious.
    Fi is seductive.

    Fe feels for others.
    Fi feels for self.

    Fe resounds.
    Fi resonates.

    Fe is the smile that leads to the kiss.
    Fi is the butterfly in your chest that led to the smile.

    Fe makes decisions based on values.
    Fi makes decisions based on PERSONAL values.

    Fe reaches out.
    Fi pulls in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Economica View Post
    This is a thread for people to contribute their experience


    This is why I don't like you. Some of us don't actually remember our experiences clearly, or even see things like this in terms of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post


    This is why I don't like you. Some of us don't actually remember our experiences clearly, or even see things like this in terms of them.
    Hey, I didn't say it had to be RL experience this time! You've got enough forum experience to contribute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Economica View Post
    Hey, I didn't say it had to be RL experience this time! You've got enough forum experience to contribute.
    Not really. The problem is the way my mind works. I don't actually see my experiences clearly. I occasionally take one or two pieces of information and create an abstraction regarding a category, but most of the time I can't tell you where it came from, or how many examples have reinforced the idea (because I forget my specific experiences and only remember the theory I came up with to explain the experience at that time).

    So essentially, my mind almost never holds on to my raw experiences. They're always discarded in favor of unverifiable theories that seem to explain them. The problem is that I don't know which parts of my beliefs are influenced by my armchair theorizing, other's armchair theorizing, and which parts are based on experience, because it all blends together in my head into a single internally consistent amalgamation. You're asking me to give information that's been sorted according to a dichotomy I don't use internally, and it would be impossible for me to go back and retroactively tag/sort all the mental processing I've done on this issue to fit your specifications. I'd have to start all over again, and it would be really hard.

    Regardless, I'll try to give you what I can, but I cannot make any guarantees as to what it's based on, so it may be too tainted to use.

    Ni vs. Ne

    Future possibilities vs. Present possibilities

    Metacognitive vs. Metaphorical

    Transcendent vs. Contextual

    Te vs. Ti

    Achievement vs. Understanding

    Efficiency vs. Redundancy (as in engineering)

    Order vs. Awareness

    Simplicity vs. Precision

    Fe vs. Fi

    Harmony vs. Integrity

    Manipulation vs. Directness

    Prose vs. Poetry

    Etiquette vs. Personalization

    Se vs. Si

    Impulse vs. Reflection

    Appearance vs. Associations

    Casual vs. Formal

    Practical vs. Proven

    Does any of that make sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    Not really. The problem is the way my mind works. I don't actually see my experiences clearly. I occasionally take one or two pieces of information and create an abstraction regarding a category, but most of the time I can't tell you where it came from, or how many examples have reinforced the idea (because I forget my specific experiences and only remember the theory I came up with to explain the experience at that time).
    My mind actually works the same way. Though I feel I have considerable experience with applied MBTI by now, I nevertheless have a hard time coming up with these word pairs off the top of my head. The discriminatory nuances tend to only come to my mind when pondering a specific person's type. For instance, I came up with Ne springy vs. Ni dogged and Te no-nonsense vs. Ti academic when I was trying to crystallize my conviction that Ivy is an Ne and Te user rather than an Ni and Ti user.

    But I realize this is probably a Te way of going about it...

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