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    Junior Member vanizorc's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo View Post
    I think, sometimes, confidence can be misconstrued as extroversion. INTJs probably the most confident INs (speaking in broad generalities).
    This.

    INTJs' confidence, IMO, really does lend a veneer of extroversion. After all, extroversion is so often stereotypically (and erroneously) associated with confidence. (I said 'erroneously' because no doubt introverts can be confident as well - it's just that most people don't know it because, for all their lives, they've been fed the stereotype that introvert = lack of self-esteem, shyness, etc... So when they do come across a confident introvert, they mistakenly type them as extrovert.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by InvisibleJim View Post
    I'm not necessarily sure how to explain to types who don't have an inferior extroverted sensing anima/id exactly how awkward, hideous and scary it can be. To engage with the world we start to drop out of our high level happy and content introverted intuition bubble and it's a very angry and confused battle to return to there, especially if we are suddenly jolted back into reality.

    Yes we can socialise, once we have sufficiently categorized the external information into the relevant Te boxes so that we know what is expected and we know how our environment will feed us back sensory information.
    That's excellent, Jim, as was your previous post. I can relate to that method of socializing. As a matter of fact, that's why I have been a huge fan of MBTI for over 20 years... it helps me put the people I meet into "relevant Te boxes" so that I can have some foundation from which to work when I am interacting with them.

    I love this thread... saw so many familiar faces... especially on the first page.

    I also would like to throw in my two cents about the "timeline". I'm not sure where the information comes from, but Barron and Tieger state in their books that the Dominant function begins to develop around age 6 and the Auxiliary begins to develop around age 12. The Tertiary doesn't begin to develop until around age 25. Consequently, I know a man who uses Type in his professional business as a consultant, and he suggests that people should think about how they were when they were about 18 years of age in order to get a more accurate picture of what their type is. Incidentally, the Inferior typically begins to develop around the age of 50. However, it's not really an exact science. I tell people it's like when babies' teeth come in, or they start walking or talking... everyone is a little different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanizorc View Post
    This.

    INTJs' confidence, IMO, really does lend a veneer of extroversion. After all, extroversion is so often stereotypically (and erroneously) associated with confidence. (I said 'erroneously' because no doubt introverts can be confident as well - it's just that most people don't know it because, for all their lives, they've been fed the stereotype that introvert = lack of self-esteem, shyness, etc... So when they do come across a confident introvert, they mistakenly type them as extrovert.)
    My mother and sister insisted for the longest time that I was an Extravert but I kept insisting that just because a person DOES extravert doesn't mean they ARE one. I can extravert but it spends my emotional resources very quickly.

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