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    Twenty minutes ago, after telling him that I do not want craftsmen working in my apartment, my father remarked: You are somewhat unsociable, right? Very perceptive.

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    haha. yeah, i only know of two for sure INTJ's and both are incredibly socially inept.

    both of them i've introduced to a great number of people, however no one ever recalls them because even having been introduced, they keep their selves elusive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyAnnaJoan View Post
    haha. yeah, i only know of two for sure INTJ's and both are incredibly socially inept.

    both of them i've introduced to a great number of people, however no one ever recalls them because even having been introduced, they keep their selves elusive.
    The 2 I know well- One is a lawyer and aspiring politician, and he's social but spazzes out and can be nasty towards people. He loves Twitter, though.

    The other goes through his phases of being on the scene and being a homebody. When he's out we play the background. That's why I like to roll out with him, he's chill like I am.

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    As you know, I have one of you at home and imo, you come off E when you're looking to have a good time or when you're forced to step up and lead. SeTe basically. Mine tends to sigh reluctantly at the responsibility of having leadership, but secretly enjoys is. Once he gets into it though, everyone knows he's in the house. He, however, does not prefer to stay in charge, he loves in fact making things in order, mentor someone to take over and then step aside and be the 'puppeteer' on the side, so he doesn't keep the spotlight but still has all the power :rolli: This stuff does require him having time to strategize and plan in advance, and he doesn't like to be tossed into it. As for Se, once he was comfortable with my friends (who became our friends), he became more extraverted with them than I am, especially if he's decided is going to have a drink as well. Se all the way. He just cannot keep it up for a long time.

    As for socializing, young INTJs are incredibly fun and cute in their socialization process. There a certain dilligence and methodicalness to it, with a clear goal in mind. It's especially interesting to watch when they've decided it's time to find someone to share their life with, and they're gathering and processing data...which incidentely usually means *you* (especially if you're enfp )
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    My high school INTJ friend could be really outgoing and engaging if she was up for it, but it seemed like she really liked her alone time too, probably more than I like my alone time.
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    I'm not necessarily sure how to explain to types who don't have an inferior extroverted sensing anima/id exactly how awkward, hideous and scary it can be. To engage with the world we start to drop out of our high level happy and content introverted intuition bubble and it's a very angry and confused battle to return to there, especially if we are suddenly jolted back into reality.

    Yes we can socialise, once we have sufficiently categorized the external information into the relevant Te boxes so that we know what is expected and we know how our environment will feed us back sensory information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satine View Post
    ...he loves in fact making things in order, mentor someone to take over and then step aside and be the 'puppeteer' on the side, so he doesn't keep the spotlight but still has all the power...
    I swear to God, this is the INTJ's purpose on this Earth.

    And ENxJs: to be those puppets.



    No, seriously, though...

    Leo Strauss' entire philosophy was based on this.


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    They are ? In which world ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satine View Post
    As you know, I have one of you at home and imo, you come off E when you're looking to have a good time or when you're forced to step up and lead. SeTe basically. Mine tends to sigh reluctantly at the responsibility of having leadership, but secretly enjoys is. Once he gets into it though, everyone knows he's in the house. He, however, does not prefer to stay in charge, he loves in fact making things in order, mentor someone to take over and then step aside and be the 'puppeteer' on the side, so he doesn't keep the spotlight but still has all the power :rolli: This stuff does require him having time to strategize and plan in advance, and he doesn't like to be tossed into it. As for Se, once he was comfortable with my friends (who became our friends), he became more extraverted with them than I am, especially if he's decided is going to have a drink as well. Se all the way. He just cannot keep it up for a long time.

    As for socializing, young INTJs are incredibly fun and cute in their socialization process. There a certain dilligence and methodicalness to it, with a clear goal in mind. It's especially interesting to watch when they've decided it's time to find someone to share their life with, and they're gathering and processing data...which incidentely usually means *you* (especially if you're enfp )
    Once again, you are right on the money. The highlighted rings especially true for me. I think what I enjoy about the occasions when I take leadership is the knowledge that whatever it is will finally get done right. It comes almost as a relief. I want it to continue to get done right, but without my staying involved in the minutiae, hence the plans and the mentoring. It is much more fulfilling to set up a semi-autonomous system I can hand off to others. I really don't care who gets the credit at that point, as long as my vision is realized.

    I also did my share of data processing when investigating potential SO's, but it involved some rather pointed testing as well. I didn't recognize it as such at the time, but that's what it was.

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    I was honestly unaware that INTJ's socialized.
    INTJs don't socialize. We network.

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    Because they wear bananas in their pants to be confused as extroverts
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