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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    JivinJeff suggests that one's type around the ages of 10-15 probably is most indicative, before one develops the typical social guises. I was INTP in my approach to life; but I was very very isolated and lonely, and this came out both in writing and in music where I was seeking for those "intimate" feelings and looking for some sort of emotional connection.
    Well, that would put me squarely in the INTP camp, then.

    Which I think is why I developed this very introspective "Jane Eyre" or autobiographical/personal writing/artistic style, but it is all processed through a T filter. I learned to socialize through my writing.
    I like the writing style of many INFPs precisely because of that sort of expressiveness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recluse View Post
    I like the writing style of many INFPs precisely because of that sort of expressiveness.
    Uh huh.

    I do my best to write and create like an F... and to many people, it looks good... but then when I sit down and read something by an actual F, I feel like a sham. i just got done reading "Lucky" by Alice Sebold; I think she's an INFJ; and I don't know if I could ever equal her skills, I'm still coming from the "outside in" with that sort of approach, where she actually seems to "think in that style" from the start.

    Then again, writing is judged on its own standards, isn't it?
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    That MMDI succeeds where many MBTI-based tests fail insofar as it draws results from literal, behavioral translations of Jungian gobbledygook.

    As if I were to sign off because I NEED TO RELEASE EMOTIONS AND ACHIEVE A METAMORPHOSIS WHILE PULLING OFF RESULTS MERELY WITH MY FELT PRESENCE, as per the Cognitive Processes test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by htb View Post
    That MMDI succeeds where many MBTI-based tests fail insofar as it draws results from literal, behavioral translations of Jungian gobbledygook.
    I found it an interesting test. I'm just unsure as to exactly what it's evaluating, as it's comparing unlike things most of the time... and often they were things that I really felt I couldn't choose between -- like comparing apples and oranges.

    It's like asking someone whether they like ice cream or reading -- and my answer would be "Yes." How could I possibly decide which one I liked "more"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf View Post
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    Find something we're interested in and it can be hard to get us to shut up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natrushka View Post
    Find something we're interested in and it can be hard to get us to shut up.
    It was an INTJ asking, I answered. I knew she (and any INTJ, like you) would understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I found it an interesting test. I'm just unsure as to exactly what it's evaluating, as it's comparing unlike things most of the time... and often they were things that I really felt I couldn't choose between -- like comparing apples and oranges.

    It's like asking someone whether they like ice cream or reading -- and my answer would be "Yes." How could I possibly decide which one I liked "more"?
    If it's any consolation, Jennifer, I came out as an ISTP / INTP.

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    I had this idea, or rather question, today that INTJs seem compelled to take up an extraverted role. No conclusiveness yet...
    (I've put this in my notes, even while I've taken up the effort to minimize those.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    JivinJeff suggests that one's type around the ages of 10-15 probably is most indicative, before one develops the typical social guises.
    that's very interesting. i would wager for girls that 10-12 is better, because girls, at least in my culture, start social cliquing quite early. not so sure about guys.

    anyway - i agree about outward confidence/Te being mistaken for extraversion in INTJs. incidentally i believe an opposite thing often occurs with ENFPs... we're kind of in our heads to begin with and then combine that with uncertainty, and you get an extravert who looks like an introvert, eg skylights testing as an INFP for 6 years before figuring things out.

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    I would agree on the confidence thing, and also maybe in social situations they can learn to rely as they get older on their ENTP shadow, or even go into that whole ESFP spike of the inferior thing on a bad day.

    I don't know how someone would mistake an INTJ for an extrovert, though. Seriously. I've met...at least four INTJ males IRL....and only one of them seemed even vaguely ENTJ, and that was just vaguely.

    The ENTJ male I know? MUCH MORE OBVIOUSLY EXTROVERTED.

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