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    Default Another Perspective on the Functions:objects, motion, holistic and linear

    Fundamental Nature of the MBTI (Mark Bruzon)

    This is a site I have been occasionally running across for years, but until now never really had the time to site down and digest. But it's very interesting. While it will not clarify the processes for the un-advanced; it does give another perspective to look at them through.

    Reality is portrayed as a grid-like matrix

    Perception deals in the components of the matrix

    Sensing is portrayed as dealing with objects ("physical"; including people, events, etc), or what things ARE. They are portrayed as dots at the intersections of the grids

    iNtuition is basically what things DO, or how they work, move ("motion"), etc. Hence, the grid becomes abstract (dotted lines) with no objects shown

    Extraversion covers the entire matrix, or "wide area"
    Introversion covers a "local area"; perhaps a single object, or its immediate area.

    So Introverted Sensing will focus on a particular object and the sensory information incorporated into a localized matrix area. This will end up most dependent on a familiar and stable environment.

    Extraverted Sensing deals with objects in a wide matrix area, and hence, awareness of the immediate physical environment, and the enjoyment of sensory stimuli and living in the present.

    Introverted Intuition: how things work/move in a localized matrix area. So it's more into the abstract principles that underlie a given event, not in the event itself.

    Extraverted Intuition how things work/move in a wide matrix area. Conceptualizes within the overall picture, and thus immediately aware of all the possibilities suggested by a particular situation.

    Judging deals in the connections within the matrix

    Feeling is holistic, establishing between multiple objects throughout the matrix. It maintains the integrity of these wide connections and not just the immediate structure. This will lead the feeler to be concerned more with people than things, and a broader perspective. So in the diagrams, you see a section of the matrix enclosed in a circle.

    Thinking is linear, based on specific properties. So actions will only have to maintain the immediate matrix structure, and disregard all that is not directly related to the decision at hand. In the diagrams, you see the intersections of the grid (with or without concrete objects) with connecting lines making a path.

    I was trying to understand how "holistic" equated to feeling. I guess the key is in the word "harmony". Feeling provides s sense of how the world should be, with non-technical criteria, and hence, the association with emotions and attachment. Thinking deals in the technical connections, detached from any other consideration.

    The attitude of the judging functions is determined by the perception attitude it is paired with (which of course is the opposite attitude). So extraverted Thinking and Feeling deal with local area matrices (not wide area, as you might assume), and introverted Thinking and Feeling deal with the wide area matrix.

    This makes perfect sense. It explains why introverted judgments deal in universals, as well as the subjective factor. Universals are represented by the wide area matrix. The local area matrix is the "external" immediate environment the extraverted judgments deal in.
    I thought if it in terms of anchoring. With Je, you anchor yourself to the local area, such as a group, organization, the immediate area, etc. With Ji, you cannot anchor yourself to the entire matrix (all of reality, or the universe). So you are basically anchored in yourself, so to speak. Like if you're piloting a ship at sea on the earth, you can drop anchor, and it will land on the solid surface under the water. Yet, if you're in space, you cannot drop anchor anywhere. According to Relativity, every object is basically it's own "at rest" frame of reference. Hence, Ji dealing with subjective and universal things, and Je dealing with local externals.

    So introverted feeling is holistic relationships over a wide area matrix. Universal and personal values and a desire of overall harmony in the overall environment.

    Extraverted Feeling: holistic web of connections within localized area: group, family, community, etc.

    Introverted Thinking: linear connections suggested by overall external elements. It's not interested in the external situation, but any [universal or internal] understanding it may bring.

    Extraverted Thinking: linear connections within a localized matrix area. Hence, bringing order into specific aspects of life such as a particular organization or institution.

    Bruzon also maps the functions to the brain hemispheres like Lenore Thomson.
    APS Profile: Inclusion: e/w=1/6 (Supine) |Control: e/w=7/3 (Choleric) |Affection: e/w=1/9 (Supine)
    Ti 54.3 | Ne 47.3 | Si 37.8 | Fe 17.7 | Te 22.5 | Ni 13.4 | Se 18.9 | Fi 27.9

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    Thanks for linking me to that site! I remembered it recently, and I've been looking for it.

    Does that mean ISTJ would be the most detailed, linear, and focused type?

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    Yeah; probably. That would make sense, and hence why they're called "The Inspector".
    APS Profile: Inclusion: e/w=1/6 (Supine) |Control: e/w=7/3 (Choleric) |Affection: e/w=1/9 (Supine)
    Ti 54.3 | Ne 47.3 | Si 37.8 | Fe 17.7 | Te 22.5 | Ni 13.4 | Se 18.9 | Fi 27.9

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    i'm impressed with the descriptions. my head is currently re-organizing as a result. compelling ideas which are really helpful in explicating the whole left- right-brain thing in lenore.

    i think the layout is clean but i'd be interested in understanding different expressions of cognitive function development. left- right-brain dominance is one thing, are all opposite sides developed equally? is Ti my ticket to universalization and subjectivity? it feels like it. strange ideas. is left brained autistic?

    and perhaps unrelatedly but i think not, what does pot have to do with this?

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