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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    I'm sure Jack Block would love to be bothered by internet people.
    I think you would be surprised how approachable professors are - particularly if you are prepared to talk to him on the telephone or Skype video rather than email.

    They are, after all, human beings and there is every chance he would be flattered by your call.

    But look, you both live in the same country and we are now all connected in the noosphere, so why not talk with him.

    He doesn't know you, but you know him - so only you can make the first move.

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    MBTI doesn't have to be valid in order to be useful in some capacity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greed View Post
    MBTI doesn't have to be valid in order to be useful in some capacity.
    But it purports to be a personality test.

    And if it is not a personality test, it is a scam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    But it purports to be a personality test.

    And if it is not a personality test, it is a scam.

    if its not a personality test, what is it? other than a scam, i mean

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    Quote Originally Posted by thisGuy View Post
    if its not a personality test, what is it? other than a scam, i mean
    Well, it is a highly successful scam.

    And it became successful in WW II and it has become more successful over the last 70 years over the whole of the literate world.

    So it plainly meets the needs of vast numbers of diverse people.

    But what are these needs?

    And I think these are the same need as are met by astrology.

    So it's like MBTI is astrology for the College educated.

    It's like an up-market astrology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    Hey, I find MBTI interesting, but what can you really "rely" on the tests for? They tell you something that really can't be disproven. It's only useful as a vocabulary for vague self-exploration IMO (and I enjoy vague self-exploration as much as the next person but I'd never rely on it for anything really important like hiring someone or choosing a mate).
    Agreed. It's really just a perspective from which to consider personal interactions, and it just places a name on the inductive reasoning we all already use to predict each other's behavior anyway.

    But I'm sure Victor is having a great time pushing our buttons again.

    When will we learn?
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    What is MBTI scamming for? Cash?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Well, it is a highly successful scam.

    And it became successful in WW II and it has become more successful over the last 70 years over the whole of the literate world.

    So it plainly meets the needs of vast numbers of diverse people.

    But what are these needs?

    And I think these are the same need as are met by astrology.

    So it's like MBTI is astrology for the College educated.

    It's like an up-market astrology.
    you fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    What is MBTI scamming for? Cash?
    Mrs Briggs and her daughter Mrs Myers started the scam during WW II while our attention was elsewhere.

    So I guess the first question is, how did it benefit them? And I guess the money trail is as good a place to start as any.

    And I understand that MBTI was first used to induct women into the industrial war machine.

    And it was the industrial war machine that got us out of the Depression by pumping billions upon billions of dollars into the economy. And I find it hard to believe that some of this didn't find its way into the pockets of Mrs Briggs and her daughter Mrs Myers - after all, they were making a great contribution to the war effort - surely they should be handsomely compensated.

    And scamsters need willing victims, so I guess the second question is, what do the victims get?

    And the answer was that the women got liberated from their unpaid domestic duties and were given industrial jobs with rates of pay comparable to men.

    So MBTI was irresistible during WW II and has retained its popularity ever since and has come to challenge astrology among educated women.

    Cui bono?

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    It of course only becomes a scam if you pay for the test, and there's no real need for that IMO; there's such a wealth of free knowledge on the internet about the system (and a huge amount of free tests as a low-entry point) that anyone can become an authority on it if they have enough interest. I do draw the line at paying for a test, though. Seems like a waste of money to me.

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