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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    That "mashup" doesn't really reveal anything new because all it does is gives my answers back to me in an abridged version. As I told Splittet, the results do not inform me of anything that simple self awareness wouldn't tell me.
    Certainly. MBTI leads to discussions such as this thing; I'd love to see if Big 5 has ever been used in this way.

    Unfortunately, some of these extrapolated descriptions can be correct, and some can be incorrect; some have overlap, and some are only be deemed "correct" through confirmation bias or the Forer effect.

    I suppose, then, it's up to the individual to choose the tools and type descriptions that work best for him.

    Just for the record, I don't follow socionics or cognitive functions - both of those are too hoaky for my taste.
    Yeah. If I find a way to make sense of them and perhaps incorporate them into a better subjective mental model, I'll do so. For right now, though, I'm choosing to leave them out.

    You've mentioned that "neuroticism" factor of the test measures "healthy and unhealthy" types of the same personality. Eve De Lunas came up with some really good theories related to unhealthy behavior of different types (within MBTI). The book's name is Survival Games Personalities Play. Pretty much everyone I recommend that book to told me they were impressed with its accuracy.
    Another book to check out.. I'll have to give this one a read. Thanks!

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    The scam of the MBTI trance

    is like a hot cross bun with honey mustard sauce
    is like a bunch of saffron flowers nestled amongst the bees
    is like a fluffy pillow filled with albatross feathers
    is like a rock rolling along the lawn mowers path
    is like a tapioca cake topped with marshmallows

    is the scam of TV trance charming
    is the scam of the internet like radioactive isotopes
    is the scam of car breaking down cheaper, is the scam of a trolley wheel falling off sexier?

    who knows, people like to invent whatever meaning gets their kit off
    i really want some merchandise with that
    where's the MBTI real estate section, prime lands selling like hot cakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapse View Post
    The scam of the MBTI trance

    is like a hot cross bun with honey mustard sauce
    is like a bunch of saffron flowers nestled amongst the bees
    is like a fluffy pillow filled with albatross feathers
    is like a rock rolling along the lawn mowers path
    is like a tapioca cake topped with marshmallows

    is the scam of TV trance charming
    is the scam of the internet like radioactive isotopes
    is the scam of car breaking down cheaper, is the scam of a trolley wheel falling off sexier?
    The Scam Of The MBTI Trance.
    We should stick that in the poetry section.

    This old thread is pretty funny. Classic Victor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Any repetition can induce a trance.

    Advertising takes advantage of this and keeps repeating ads over and over again - and it works - billions of dollars every year are spent on just this kind of advertising.

    And propaganda takes similar advantage of repetition to induce a trance.

    But why do advertising and propaganda wish to put us in a trance?

    And the answer is because in a trance our critical faculties go to sleep and we are susceptible to the suggestions of the advertisers and the propagandists.

    And that is why MBTI is repeated over and over again here. And it is so lovingly repeated because the sheer repetition puts us into an uncritical trance.

    And it is this uncritical trance that is so beloved by the scamsters.

    And we have here office bearers of this site who have been repeating MBTI over and over again for many years.

    And every now and then they reveal their spite towards anyone who seeks to wake us up from the MBTI trance.

    But they are relentless because they themselves are in a deep trance, and deeply and profoundly resent anyone trying to wake them up.

    And, incidentally, the best way to put someone in a trance is to enter a trance yourself. And the only better way to put someone in a trance is to put the group in a trance first and then the individual follows along. And that is just what happen here.

    But the price you pay for the MBTI trance, for the MBTI scam, is your self respect.

    But the beauty of it is, that in a trance, you don't notice the loss.
    Then what are you doing on MBTI forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilogen View Post
    Then what are you doing on MBTI forum?
    Because typologycentral is a tolerant and well run site that allows Mole to think critically about Carl Jung and MBTI.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Of course we always have reasons for what we do - otherwise we would be unreasonable or have no reason for what we do.

    But no matter what the reason, in advertisements or propaganda or MBTI, it is the repetition that matters - because any repetition can induce a trance.

    And repetition done in company, as we do here, can induce a profound trance from which it is difficult and even painful to awaken from.
    O rly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilogen View Post
    Then what are you doing on MBTI forum?
    I was invited here by Geoff who told me this is a tolerant and well run site, and it is. But he told me nothing about mbti. I had to discover mbti all by myself.

    And naturally I applied critical thinking to mbti.

    And critical thinking tends to wake members from the trance of mbti, and they don't like to be woken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Linguist View Post
    People, seriously, it's only a tool, like any other.

    Just like you can't use a hammer, a wrench, or any other tool to fix everything, you can't use MBTI as a fix-all either.

    Use your brains....

    If you use it excessively, it will only result in crap.

    Used properly, it can be very enlightening along a path of self-discovery and self-improvement.
    You're putting more and more spaces between your lines of text. I'm worried Mole's dialogue's got to ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    God knows I need it.
    No dude you don't lululululz you don' t needs. moar lickour. mOar liqour wood be bad for you. mommy no want you pas to have any more liquor. El no drinko liquoro. El understando? liquor maek you drunk and angry



    btw wind in tje willows sucks

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    Good job resurrecting a very, very dead thread just to shit all over it!

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