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    To the OP, YES! I agree. People need to think for themselves and stop relying on what "type' they are. I have no fucking clue what type I truly am and for those of you who think you know, think again as you're probably wrong.
    Time is a delicate mistress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajah View Post
    Does anyone really like criticism?
    I don't necessarily like it, but if it is constructive and i can benefit from it (and believe its not just a poke) then i am grateful for it.
    “I made you take time to look at what I saw and when you took time to really notice my flower, you hung all your associations with flowers on my flower and you write about my flower as if I think and see what you think and see—and I don't.”
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    Some posts moved here.
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    My ISFPness almost kept me from getting out of bed this morning but I somehow managed to overcome it (just).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    Some posts moved here.
    How come I can't view that page? It says I don't have permission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    I'm not referring to you specifically. But you did remind me of an entire spectrum of NTPs. Several would fit in that category.

    It wasn't meant to be insulting, although it might have come across that way because I happen to like that group of NTPs less than the other one. That's only because I can't understand where the group you're in is coming from most of the time, though.

    NTPs are so complex that trying to categorize all the different variants of them would take forever, though.
    It did sound offensive, but you actually did hit my personality on the head with that. Except for the part where I don't tell anyone about it, and therefore do not whine. Other than that, you've got me pegged.

    I also tend to think of why the systems are built for humans. I suppose everything has it's mystery. I don't really care about how it effects the people, but why the system is the way it is and how it has come to be. I view the whole world in this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajah View Post
    Stop using your type as an excuse.

    Yeah, you may be an XXXX. And that type influences your natural preferences. You may not like to speak in public because you're an INTP. You may not prefer to sit at home and watch CNN because you're an ESFP. Whatever.

    But, dammit, your type does not dictate what you are and are not capable of.

    Push your boundaries. And stop using your type as an excuse to sit at home/not get the girl/stay unemployed/act like a jerk/whatever the case may be.

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    We are all born stupid. And I have to say, I want all the short-sighted people in the world to rather view the world in mbti terms than to follow any other system, like the nazi way for example.

    Though mbti is a religion like any other, it's the best we got so far, in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    Though mbti is a religion like any other, it's the best we got so far, in my opinion.
    compared to what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    Though mbti is a religion like any other, it's the best we got so far, in my opinion.
    Not really. If you want something more analytical you can always research the Big Five System though even in that regard MBTI isn't without it's own studies. I do agree with the central idea of this thread. Personality flaws obtained through MBTI are like any other personal flaws in that simply restating them and using them as an excuse will only tend to reinforce them. True, you may be naturally absentminded but you can't constantly forget to pay your bills.
    Surgeons replace one of your neurons with a microchip that duplicates its input-output functions. You feel and behave exactly as before. Then they replace a second one, and a third one, and so on, until more and more of your brain becomes silicon. Since each microchip does exactly what the neuron did, your behavior and memory never change. Do you even notice the difference? Does it feel like dying? Is some other conscious entity moving in with you?
    -Steven Pinker on the Ship of Theseus Paradox

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    There are some aspects of innate personality that will be a 'default' for people - namely in situations that they do not have much experience with that make it very difficult to overcome. But overall I agree, it is never impossible to change things you do not like about yourself...if you truly want to.
    Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

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