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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    Being a musician does not make you a genius, by any means. And there are plenty of N musicians. This whole topic... ugh.

    No, but you CAN be an artistic genius within your field. In my experience, the best musicians and actors I've known have been of average or slightly-higher-than-average intelligence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into It View Post
    Everybody knows S's are the best; they're just modest.

    Not always.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    average or slightly-higher-than-average intelligence.
    that is the opposite of genius, usually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    No, but you CAN be an artistic genius within your field.
    Right, but this has nothing to do with N vs S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wastrd View Post
    that is the opposite of genius, usually.
    He said artistic genius.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    He said artistic genius.
    Is that like intellectual athlete ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wastrd View Post
    Is that like intellectual athlete ?
    I know that you think this is some sort of oxymoron, but being an athlete does not preclude one from being an intellectual. Just as being of average or above average intelligence does not preclude one from being an artistic or creative genius. Creative ability does not increase with IQ above 120.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    Being a musician does not make you a genius, by any means. And there are plenty of N musicians. This whole topic... ugh.
    are you afraid of not being politically correct? or why is the topic "ugh"-y?

    the people that are most prone to becoming "elitist" in their mentality are the mentality dominant ones (Se/Si/Ne/Ni). people with these are auxiliary functions are in a gray area and will most likely see things in a more balanced light.

    i'm willing to bet that there outside of people who know their MBTI type exists no N elitism, because people don't know their type, and therefore aren't proud of it. like whoever said it, it's more a detached form of "selfishness". on the other hand, S elitism manifests itself as by the book bureaucracy (at least that's how i picture it), where change is neither welcomed nor permitted.

    in all honesty, i would want N elitism to be more prevalent. both to study the effects on society at large and to see what changes may come about from it. it may be "evil" looking at it from one perspective, but on the other hand, what if a greater goal could be achieved through this?

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    i see that scene from two sides: on one hand, you have an extreme number of human causalities, for which you can mourn the loss. but on the other hand, you have attained world peace... in a time where war was lurking everywhere. to me, this demonstrates just about the most extreme scenario of N elitism. my point is that even if it is extreme, any N elitism would always serve a goal that would eventually aid mankind as a whole. look at the discovery of nuclear science, and later, the atomic bomb. we took many lives from the japanese the day the bombs dropped, yet they also served to cement the power of the technology. i'm not saying it necessarily is a good thing, i'm just saying that there are always two sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentura View Post
    are you afraid of not being politically correct? or why is the topic "ugh"-y?
    I'm not afraid of anything (except getting skinned alive...) and I have never backed down from anything "controversial" or politically incorrect. I stated my thoughts accurately and did not lie about them, if that's what you are implying. (??)

    I think that no one is elite - maybe that's the issue. I just think we are all human and on the same level field, just playing different games. This N vs S, T vs F - yes we have differences, but no one is better or worse in my eyes. So again: ugh.

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