Bah, I'm a J and am procrastinating as we speak. (No worries though, I'm going to put my headphones on in a second and get really focussed for two hours.)
My Jness has caused people to say that I'm stressed out and a bit of a stick in the mud. Not sure you want this.
In any case, isn't the whole point that J/P determines whether you deal with the exterior world through determining what is and what isn't or intaking data? In that sense, it doesn't have to do with self-discipline.
Self-discipline is learned and if you develop your Te then you'll have little more organisation in your life.
I think it would be more about being realistic about what is important to you. If you decide, for example, that having fun with friends is more important than physically keeping in shape, why don't you decide to go out at and play sports with friends instead of focussing on failing at the gym because, in the end, it isn't all that important to you.
I say, make room for what is important and get rid of the rest. It will give you more time and more focus.
I hate my P-ness. (don't say that out loud... :redface But seriously....... I have no motivation. I have no punctuality. I want to set goals and finish them, dangit!! I hate sitting around the house all day with no plan or purpose... like, I want to workout, but every time I get up nothing happens. I want to get a head start on projects and dreams... but it all stays in my head instead of blossoming into anything real. I'm sick of promising myself things that I ALWAYS end up dropping. How do I find my inner J? I am sick of being so messy and frazzled and aimless. I want to be driven and accomplished and reliable and... well... you know! J-ish!
Find out what really stresses you out and learn to live in it. Not saying that Js are stressed out, but the shadow of a P is a J, so if you can learn to live in your shadow you will be a J.
Originally Posted by spamtar
I would say so. Yet it would be preferable to make it a conductors baton. Also include a carrot at the end to bribe your P.
Carrots worked for me, not sure what it was, but when I finish off a bag of those small carrots they would give me a huge sugar high.
Take what I say with a grain of salt, because that's all it is compared to the ocean of complexity when it comes to actions and real life.