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    I am just glad I finally found another thread, I am not alone with my opinion
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    Yeah, because a site on typology written in english is really the right place to find representative samples.
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    Hey Sentura, is what you're really after cultural/sub-cultural difference? The existence of "race" is basically a fairy tale. We have genotypes and phenotypes, but the variation within a population (a culture) is much greater than variation between any two populations. Culture is much more likely to affect personality type/development than anything in a person's physiological makeup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bananatrombones View Post
    As well as a closet nazi, you're also an idiot.
    just as much as you are for not understanding what this thread is about. what is it that you have such a problem with? anthropology?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentura View Post
    people, those of you who argue that race has nothing to with type: you're missing my point. i am not talking about races as much as i am talking about the culture that those races fostered. would you say that western civilization equals far-eastern civilization in terms of traditions, of knowledge and of spirituality?

    the reason i choose race is purely from an anthropological point of view, since the above mentioned traits usually derive from a specific tribe, district or part of any country. this is why subgenre matters.

    as to whether i believe MBTI is true: i can extract results from MBTI that allows me to work with this theory. i never stated that MBTI was entirely false, but i never said that it was entire true either. i use what truth i have seen proven by induction.

    also, thanks haphazard, you captured what i wanted perfectly. and yes, in your case your subgenre would be ashkenazim.

    to answer your question about 'the further east': the divide is in the pacific. i consider the eastern tip of japan to be the east-most point of the far-east. like i said, it is a question about mentality in countries and parts of those countries.

    i realize that we may not have enough diversity to see a representative from each country, much less each part of one country; but that doesn't mean i can get answers from those countries with more representatives.
    Okay, it is culture...not race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juggernaut View Post
    Hey Sentura, is what you're really after cultural/sub-cultural difference? The existence of "race" is basically a fairy tale. We have genotypes and phenotypes, but the variation within a population (a culture) is much greater than variation between any two populations. Culture, is much more likely to affect personality type/development than anything in a person's physiological makeup.
    yes. i should perhaps have used subculture instead of subgenre; but these days the semantic of subculture is completely different from what i ask of. i'm not asking whether you're "emo" or "punk" or "goth", if you catch my drift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    The only thing I've noticed is that the Swedish/Norwegian side of my family is more introverted than the other side. Perhaps more intuitive also.

    I think there are some trends we can observe. For example, is the average Finnish person more introverted than the average Italian person? Probably. But trying to make this into some sort of pseudo-science would be misguided.
    Is an Ethiopian or a Somali more extraverted than an Italian? Answer: No. Is an HongKonger more introverted than a Beijinger (forgive me for the funny names, lol): generally yes. I don't want to attack you, but I truly think that this phenomenon is mostly restricted to european countries, thus to be considered as partially casual, not causal.
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    *nods to Hap*

    Looking at Asian culture, there's a huge emphasis on SJ behaviour. Rules and traditions you must follow... within the family and within society. Whereas in America, the emphasis is freedom and individualism (SP). But that's just history influencing culture. It has very little to do with personality of individuals.

    Sentura: Not sure where you got the "farther east = more native intuitives" idea from. It doesn't seem to make any sense to me... but data for you.

    1. what ancenstry do you have? Chinese, Southern region

    2. do you consider yourself a member of a subgenre of race (i.e., for white gaulic or slavic etc., for black nigerian, aborigin, etc.) We go by region of ancestry.

    3. do you think cultures of your ancestry have had any (even minor) effect on your upbringing? For the Chinese, always.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentura View Post
    just as much as you are for not understanding what this thread is about. what is it that you have such a problem with? anthropology?
    Which school of "anthropology" did you attend? Himmler Intermediate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentura View Post
    yes. i should perhaps have used subculture instead of subgenre; but these days the semantic of subculture is completely different from what i ask of. i'm not asking whether you're "emo" or "punk" or "goth", if you catch my drift.
    Understood. Subculture does seem to have taken on a rather odd connotation in the past few decades.

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