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    The difference between "sensors" here and in real life is I get to see what the introverted ones have to say and how they think about things. People in general are more introspective in online forums.

    But as far as character and intelligence and all that, unlike seemingly the majority of "intuitives" on type forums, I have had plenty of good experiences with "sensors" in my life and already knew what a gift they can be. I don't think the "sensors" here are smarter than the average "sensor" in any way, shape, or form. That is one thing that is not different, they are every bit as smart in real life, and there are dumb "intuitives" everywhere. I have had way too many smart "sensor" friends and family and even co-workers to buy that. I have known people from all over the world, urban and rural, educated and not at all. I have known dumb people and smart people, and most of the smart people I have known have been "sensors" (probably because I haven't known too many "intuitives" very well, just 5, and yes they were all more or less smart, even if at least one was very socially stupid).

    The only reason I am participating in this forum at all is the large minority of "sensors" here. It is such a refreshing change. The various numbers of "sensor"-haters on the internet (usually NPs I am sad to say) really, really tick me off. It's funny, when I found this forum I was prepared to come in fighting because I was feeling feisty and the last forum I left was intpcentral, which is filled with very stupid people who happen to be "intuitives". But I see I don't have to fight.

    And ESs will discuss this kind of thing (well, I don't know about ESTs, but I know a lot of ESFs), but not usually by typing in an online forum. Or reading it in a book. They more like talking about psychology stuff in an offline kind of discussion.

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    Yeah, maybe it's my background, but most of the S's I know in real life are just as intelligent and open as the S's on this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nozflubber View Post
    Hell no. The sensors I see (read as: pay notice to) in my classes are stupid fucking punks, and the ones i see at jobs/shops around here are crude, ignorant and just sleezy. I find the sensors online (and particularly here) to be just..... awesome all around, and dont seem to have the "flaws" many sensors bear IRL

    prolly just self-selection methods pertaining to internet use, really. Computer illiteracy correlates with low/poor education, afterall
    It is my opinion that because of these undesirable Ss, many Ns miss-type the decent Ss they do meet as Ns. Yes, I just said that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maliafee View Post
    It is my opinion that because of these undesirable Ss, many Ns miss-type the decent Ss they do meet as Ns. Yes, I just said that.
    lol, I agree with you. And umm, including themselves. There are some Ss masquerading as Ns all over the type world. A lot of Ss want to be Ns when they are introduced to typology because they read biased books like "Please Understand Me II" or they come to forums and websites where N is pretty much the epitome of everything good and S is just "they have a good sense of smell or something."

    Also, many Ns miss-type the stupid/evil Ns they meet as Ss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maliafee View Post
    It is my opinion that because of these undesirable Ss, many Ns miss-type the decent Ss they do meet as Ns. Yes, I just said that.
    I agree. That is rather insightful. When prejudice against Sensors is at its worst, the category is so narrow that few people would really fit into it.

    Quote Originally Posted by ladyinspring View Post
    lol, I agree with you. And umm, including themselves. There are some Ss masquerading as Ns all over the type world. A lot of Ss want to be Ns when they are introduced to typology because they read biased books like "Please Understand Me II" or they come to forums and websites where N is pretty much the epitome of everything good and S is just "they have a good sense of smell or something."

    Also, many Ns miss-type the stupid/evil Ns they meet as Ss.
    I agree with this as well. The prejudiced texts is one source and then online the history of this particular strain of MBTI forums has some relationship to the old "iNuitive Central" which by nature favored Ns. I would say in general that the kinds of negative prejudice against Sensors is ironically lacking in the ability to understand the theory and see all the dimensions of the people involved. People who do type based on negative stereotypes are not particularly intuitive or objective or whatever.
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    THANK YOU, both.

    Quote Originally Posted by ladyinspring View Post
    lol, I agree with you. And umm, including themselves. There are some Ss masquerading as Ns all over the type world. A lot of Ss want to be Ns when they are introduced to typology because they read biased books like "Please Understand Me II" or they come to forums and websites where N is pretty much the epitome of everything good and S is just "they have a good sense of smell or something."

    Also, many Ns miss-type the stupid/evil Ns they meet as Ss.
    Quote Originally Posted by toonia View Post
    I agree. That is rather insightful. When prejudice against Sensors is at its worst, the category is so narrow that few people would really fit into it.


    I agree with this as well. The prejudiced texts is one source and then online the history of this particular strain of MBTI forums has some relationship to the old "iNuitive Central" which by nature favored Ns. I would say in general that the kinds of negative prejudice against Sensors is ironically lacking in the ability to understand the theory and see all the dimensions of the people involved. People who do type based on negative stereotypes are not particularly intuitive or objective or whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladyinspring View Post
    A lot of Ss want to be Ns when they are introduced to typology because they read biased books like "Please Understand Me II"...
    Are you asserting that "Please Understand Me II" is biased in a way that makes "Ns" out to be superior to "Ss?" If so, can you cite specific examples of this? Because I'm an "S" and I didn't find it that way at all.
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    That is very true.
    I worked hard to try to fit myself into an N box. I did see N as very positive when I first learned about typology.
    Also, I wanted to have more positive traits than just a good sense of smell. I wanted people to ask my opinion on a wide range of topics, not just, "Can I use this food or has it gone bad?"


    Quote Originally Posted by ladyinspring View Post
    lol, I agree with you. And umm, including themselves. There are some Ss masquerading as Ns all over the type world. A lot of Ss want to be Ns when they are introduced to typology because they read biased books like "Please Understand Me II" or they come to forums and websites where N is pretty much the epitome of everything good and S is just "they have a good sense of smell or something."

    Also, many Ns miss-type the stupid/evil Ns they meet as Ss.
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    S is just "they have a good sense of smell or something."
    LOL! :yim_rolling_on_the_ Absolutely classic!
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    Sensors here are pretty much like the sensors I see in real life. So are intuitors, feelers, thinkers, judgers, perceivers, and so on. Undoubtedly, though, my interactions with those groups here shape how I categorize people in real life.. so it's no wonder I see similarities between those on the forum and those in real life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffster View Post
    Are you asserting that "Please Understand Me II" is biased in a way that makes "Ns" out to be superior to "Ss?" If so, can you cite specific examples of this? Because I'm an "S" and I didn't find it that way at all.
    That's the way I saw that particular book, too. Gifts Differing, however, seemed to have that bias.

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