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    Habitual Fi LineStepper JocktheMotie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by raz View Post
    That makes sense, but I'm just still not getting the part of Si/Te having those morals. Apparently it's a different set of morals from an SFJ? I'd say I operate more on accepted logical principles than social morals.
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    Si -- Introverted Sensing. It's based on a desire to do things the way they've always been done... day after day, year after year, century after century. Obviously, people with this function dislike change. They accept things without question, and preserve what's familiar, and often try to align things with their internal idea of what things are supposed to be like, garnered from early experiences. But the plus side is, they have good memories, and are very organized and conscientious people. If you want something done a certain way with no questions asked, they are your best resource.
    The morals are built into you via past experiences. Si can be where your "moral compass" and "feeling of right or wrong" is held. It is based on what you expect because of your past experiences rather than an internal arbitrary value system of right and wrong like Fi.



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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    The morals are built into you via past experiences. Si can be where your "moral compass" and "feeling of right or wrong" is held. It is based on what you expect because of your past experiences rather than an internal arbitrary value system of right and wrong like Fi.
    And then there are times where I try to purposely go against those Si-morals because I want to do something that goes against their rules, and most likely, it doesn't work out because Si is that strong?


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    Quote Originally Posted by raz View Post
    And then there are times where I try to purposely go against those Si-morals because I want to do something that goes against their rules, and most likely, it doesn't work out because Si is that strong?
    Hmm, explain what you mean by "doesn't work out." I'm only really knowledgeable about how Si manifests itself in INTP behavior as a relief function, not so much about how Fi works with ISTJs, so I'm going to need more information.

    I will say however, relief functions typically spring up when the first two are in conflict. It encourages a fight or flight response in the face of a crisis, for example, when your Si-Te axis is unable to find a satisfactory answer to something or is having difficulty.



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    Along that thought of line: The morals derived and gained from past experiences do not change for an Si user which simply isn't true, however there's truth in the whole familarity thing. Fi for an ISTJ can override all other functions. In the same manner that I can rely on Ti and to an extent Fi rather than just Fe.

    PS. We're definitely going to clash because I hold functions on an independant usage rather than interconnected. Ie. I don't believe that functions MUST be used in a certain way just because they are teritary or so fourth. Ti has served me well.

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    Si doesn't have morals. It is a perceiving function. It does inform the judging functions though, which do make morals.
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    My tertiary Ti is overdeveloped because of my Asperger's Syndrome, I had to learn all the little social things as a system for my axillary Fe to function properly, and because I'm male, T is encouraged in guys while F is discouraged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaylorS View Post
    My tertiary Ti is overdeveloped because of my Asperger's Syndrome, I had to learn all the little social things as a system for my axillary Fe to function properly, and because I'm male, T is encouraged in guys while F is discouraged.
    *High Five*
    Ti based FJs FTW.

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    If you are NeTe, that would make you an ENTX. I don't see how you can associate uyourself with ENFP.
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    To the OP, does it seem like Ne and Te work rather well hand in hand?

    Quote Originally Posted by King-Of-Despair View Post
    Maybe hanging around people that use your secondary/tertiary functions dominantly can inspire you to improve that particular function? It is really just going to happen regardless, it doesn't seem like a thing that you can control and structure. What you should probably do instead is to put in effort in the things that you do, and perhaps widen the range of the things that you do as well. If you sit around and do nothing but mathematics for 20 years, your functions may develop, but I doubt they would be very balanced.

    Aside: why do I see functions as specific colours:
    N-red
    S-green
    F-yellow
    T-blue

    I've been able to do this to subjects as well... Physics: blue, Science: green, Society and Environment: yellow/brown, English: yellow, Maths: teal, specialist maths: darker blue, Mathematical studies: lighter blue, Art: red/pink, Phys Ed.: unknown, Biology: yellow/green, Chemistry: yellow, maybe orange
    Weird, I do the same thing! Except it's with genders.

    F is female and
    T is male.

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    It's all about the Fi based TJs. FTW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercy View Post
    Weird, I do the same thing! Except it's with genders.

    F is female and
    T is male.
    British humour.

    It's all about the Fi based TJs. FTW!
    w00t.

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