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    Quote Originally Posted by Walking Tourist View Post
    So, Ti is my "creative" function?
    I'd be interested if anyone can explain to me how that works.
    No, it would be Ni. Theoretically, as an ISFP, Ti would be your least used function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King-Of-Despair View Post
    How would you know if you've just used Fe to create music? I think Fe would be used to mold other people's emotions with something you've created... I don't think I've ever done that, I tend to conform to someone else's genre to appeal to them. When I construct a song, I crave complexity, I combine concepts/melodies/riffs/techniques randomly and then judge the outcome (probably using Fe at that point). I'm almost never happy with my melodies, because I don't think other people will enjoy hearing it (same when I'm being creative in other areas too). The occasional creation passes through my set standards and then I'll show off a bit
    Theoretically, an EXFP woulf have Te as their tertiary function.

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    What's missing here is the incredible amount of theory shoved down both composers' throats for many years and at an extremely early age. So when they write it is with a lot of formula; even though there is incredible genius, that has to be taken into consideration. Mozart was able to take the formulas etched in him until they were a part of him and arrange them beautifully, perfectly. Beethoven tries to actually stretch those limits more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mercy View Post
    It just hit me that two of my favorite composers seem to have this thing with their 3rd function. I think it's a source for music and I think it's a method. Beethoven urges to perfect his music little by little, and Ti helps by looking for just the right way to say something through music, coming up with a whole new sound. Mozart on the other end has less of a method, but it's still a method. His music seems to just come to him, and he writes as he goes, never fixing a single thing. Ni helps to inspire him through various sources. It never comes undone at the end, but it is not perfected like Beethoven's. Beethoven is typed as an INFJ and Mozart as an ISFP, and to a certain extent I can agree with those typings knowing just enough biography on them. So do you think the 3rd function can be a source for music and creativity and a way to master it? Or is it just a coincidence that these two composers match the profile? If these two analyses are correct, then maybe we have another perspective in which to type artists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IDK123 View Post
    Theoretically, an EXFP woulf have Te as their tertiary function.
    Theoretically, I'm not an EXFP... , I have a thread that dictates my type, It changes to whatever the people prefer it to be

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    Quote Originally Posted by King-Of-Despair View Post
    Theoretically, I'm not an EXFP... , I have a thread that dictates my type, It changes to whatever the people prefer it to be
    What a sly person you are! hahaha Then that does explain your tertiary Fe then

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChosenOne View Post
    Very possible, because I listen to a lot of songs with heavy Fi meaning (and Fi is my 3rd function).
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDK123 View Post
    What a sly person you are! hahaha Then that does explain your tertiary Fe then
    ... Perhaps too sly, I'm beginning to think that it's a bit nasty to trick people like that... I'll chuck something in my signature

    A Te would probably apply structure to their music. If it's anything like the way I seem to create music, It will go:
    1. dominant function/secondary function in creation
    2. tertiary in judgment
    For ENFP, I suppose that Ne would bring concepts together, Fi would feel the music that results and know if it sounds right/wrong to them instantly, and then finally Te comes in and gives the song structure and backbone.
    For ESFP, I have no idea what Se could do to help, except for give accurate hearing ability and supreme technical ability, Fi & Te would be same as ENFP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VagrantFarce View Post
    I've read that the tertiary function could be our "creative" function, in that creativity is essentially ego-confirmation. So when we're being creative we make extensive use of our tertiary function. Can't find where I read it though.
    Hmm...would make some sense for me I think. Since I was little, even though I never wanted to be a leader, was always fascinated by the director's role. Te is ENFPs relief function supposedly. (although my actual third strongest function is Ti)

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Outsider View Post
    Doesn't apply in my case at least.
    Ok, so while I listen to a wide variety of music, without any seeming correlation to the functions...

    ... It is an interesting concept as an artistic function. I like to draw and paint. I'd say I can draw quite well, but I feel the safest and most comfortable drawing things that I know I can draw well, which is ironically probably caused by obsessing over these particular things. So, if you were to pick up my math notebook for example, you could see it filled with trees and lighthouses, sometimes human figures, with some recurring themes.

    My point being, that it seems kind of Si'ish thingy..

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    Quote Originally Posted by King-Of-Despair View Post
    ... Perhaps too sly, I'm beginning to think that it's a bit nasty to trick people like that... I'll chuck something in my signature

    A Te would probably apply structure to their music. If it's anything like the way I seem to create music, It will go:
    1. dominant function/secondary function in creation
    2. tertiary in judgment
    For ENFP, I suppose that Ne would bring concepts together, Fi would feel the music that results and know if it sounds right/wrong to them instantly, and then finally Te comes in and gives the song structure and backbone.
    For ESFP, I have no idea what Se could do to help, except for give accurate hearing ability and supreme technical ability, Fi & Te would be same as ENFP.
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