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    Quote Originally Posted by athenian200 View Post
    Well, then, is your perception of Ni different from the one I put forth? Isn't it something that automatically analyzes things from different perspectives and finds hidden assumptions? Everyone seems to perceive it differently. Perhaps Ni isn't actually the same function for everyone who posesses it?
    The best description I've read of Ni/Ne is that they are "a lightning rod for the unconscious", and that Ni in particular is "close to the archetypes." Ni isn't something you can wield. As an INTJ, the thing I do consciously is think. When I'm having a problem I can't seem to work out, I sit back, clear my mind as much as I can, and wait for the answer to just come to me. When it does, in an instant I just know. I can retroactively outline step-by-step why what I've suddenly known is true, but I only bother with that when I have to explain why it's a good idea to someone else. (Incidentally, INTPs hate the "I just know" explanation.)

    It's not something to use - you just have to clear your mind and let it do its thing. In that sense, I think of Ni as being powerful but unwieldy. All of the things that enter our mind of which our conscious mind is unaware are there waiting to be accessed, but we have to let Ni do it if and when it should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    You can't "use" Ni. It's one of the irrational (perceiving) functions.
    I think usage is generally incapsulated in externalization of the perception's content. Basically, the explanation of the existence of a trend to another human being can be considered as "using" Ni; or, alternatively, guiding the said human being towards a given goal of his/her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    The best description I've read of Ni/Ne is that they are "a lightning rod for the unconscious", and that Ni in particular is "close to the archetypes." Ni isn't something you can wield.
    When I refer to "using" Ni, I generally mean "unleashing it" or something similar. (You are right that this is not the same as "using" a rational function like Thinking or Feeling.)

    I can't make N go in specific directions, but I can choose to block it out or not let it run free.
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    So, in other words, Ni would be allowing your mind to run through every possibility you're aware of related to something, and then using some kind of judgment to filter it towards what you're searching for, finally seeming to settle on what is subjectively the best one? I've done something like that in certain situations.

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