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    Interesting video

    YouTube - Leave Me Alone... Sometimes (ProteanView)

    I disagree however that extraverts NEED to engage people. Would you agree?

    Being an extravert myself I am perfectly comfortable being alone and not engaging others but I prefer that I do because for me (may be an SP thing) it keeps me from being bored, that said I rarely care for random small talk with strangers

    Though that may actually be a bit of an ESTP thing... As Keirsey says: "Promoters understand well the maxim, "He who travels fastest, travels alone," although they are not likely to be lonely for long, since their boldness and sense of adventure tends to make them highly attractive to many other people."

    Questions to the extraverts,

    Do you feel comfortable being alone?
    Do you feel the need to constantly engage people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unique View Post
    Interesting video

    YouTube - Leave Me Alone... Sometimes (ProteanView)

    I disagree however that extraverts NEED to engage people. Would you agree?

    Being an extravert myself I am perfectly comfortable being alone and not engaging others but I PREFER that I do because for me (may be an SP thing) it keeps me from being bored

    Or am I one of these so called Ambiverts?

    Questions to the extraverts,

    Do you feel comfortable being alone?
    Do you feel the need to constantly engage people?
    Comfortable being alone? Sure, especially if I have something that I want to do.

    Constantly engage people? No. Even when I do, I prefer to engage with those I identify with in some capacity, although I am very polite and cordial to all humans I encounter in my daily activities, but I'm just as quick to shut down rudeness when I encounter it. Live and let live, be free and merry, but don't be a dickhead in front of me.

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    I don't like how he says "comfortable in your own skin." That goes toward confidence and a healthy self-image, and not orientation. A book I was reading described a class of introverts as "accessible introverts." They're introverts that place themselves into society at a larger scale than an average introvert, for various reasons. They're, as you would say, more accessible. I think ambivert might be similar to how they described an accessible introvert, but not entirely.

    But, god, I'm not a big fan of those personal YouTube videos. It's the STJ in me. I don't give a crap about what people have to say on YouTube in their personal whatever, vlogs or something or another. It actually annoys me. It's like they have something to prove by doing it. Wow, I just ranted.


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    lol "one of the most misunderstood groups."
    I'm sure I could think of a few that come before "ambiverts"

    This guys voice was too annoying for me to finish the video. Too much repetitiveness too. I consider myself mildly extraverted/ ambiverted. I don't feel the need to costantly be around people, although I would rather. I do not mind spending hours and days with family and friends like some people do, but I also like to relax by myself once in a while. I don't think there are many extraverts that literally need to CONSTANTLY be around people, unless they are really extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unique View Post
    Interesting video
    Questions to the extraverts,

    Do you feel comfortable being alone?
    Do you feel the need to constantly engage people?
    This one's been covered a few times I think on this forum, the general consensus being that no, not all extraverts want to spend the majority of their time around people, particularly T's.

    I feel perfectly comfy being alone, and whilst I do enjoy being with people, it all depends on the people. Obviously like anyone else, like minded people energize me whilst being a fish out of water drains me. And regardless, I still need to have a good few hours of solitude before I go to bed, which is why, as the kids get older and go to bed later, I'm getting less and less sleep!

    But... when i'm on my own, my solitary pursuits still tend to be externally focused, which is what gives me away, I think
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    my comment:

    there is in/ex -troversion that is based on seeking experience (sensory or intuitive) and in/ex -troversion that is based on ambition or longing for interactive involvement (thinking of feeling). everyone has all variations with different priority. for introverted people: some who have ambition for interaction are afraid of it, for the very same reason. because they care about the quality of interaction. they may act more introverted but feel less introverted, than experience seeking introverts, who may feel more introverted, but act more extroverted, unless they don't want to be bothered with interaction, because they don't care enough about it.

    to be precise, we would need for steps of x-version. 1) involuntary ambitious about interaction (Je) 2) experience seeking (Pe) but self contained (Ji) 3) cautious and selective about experience (Pi) but ambitious about interaction (Je) 4) self contained (Ji), but experience seeking (Pe). you might want to sort them differently, like 2 > 1 > 4 > 3 it depends on situations, or what catches your eye


    understandable? obviously i group like this

    1 TeSi TeNi FeSi FeNi
    2 SeTi SeFi NeTi NeFi
    3 NiFe NiTe SiFe SiTe
    4 TiNe TiSe FiNe FiSE

    of course this is just one way of looking at it.
    you could also say, that F is more extroverted (behaviorally) than T and S more than N and then claim that because of this for instance FeNi>FiSe>TeNi uhm ... i wont go further down that road

    just saying, there is no perfect gradient, but 4 rough groups of x-version work better for me, than 2.

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    there are the terms predicative and functional
    they come from a guy who was arguing that functional people have ADHD and predicatives don't.
    (dude has a website, scientific style of presentation ... dont have the link, sorry)

    i would say predicatives have a judging dominant function, functionals have a perceiving function. i like to call the predicatives hardheads. to make up for them calling me hunter gatherer *g*

    anyway, J/P (socioncs style, meaning intoverted perceivers are Si and NI) is the the second most significant trait to intro and extroversion. it's more apparent to the eye than T/F or S/N

    unless i am wrong about my assignment of the "functional" and "predicative" types. but i don't think so.

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    I belive what is being observed lies in the Interaction Style matrix, which consists of expressiveness (I/E) and responsiveness (the other factor of Directing/Informing). When we normally think of introversion and extroversion, we are thinking of expressing as an introvert or extrovert. Yet the oter dimension can be considered as responding as an introvert or extrovert. Hence, directing types might ultimately prefer to be alone, regardless of how much they express to people. So EST (In Charge), might be very expressive to people, but not respond to them much. Usually, they only respond to those who meet a criterion. The Get Things Going types, particularly the ESF's, are the pure extroverts.

    So the combination of expressing as an extrovert and responding as an introvert may "average out" to a kind of "ambiversion". Another kind is to simply express as an ambivert. This is not covered in the letter code, but would basically refer to those who score very close in the I/E dimension and express only moderately.
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    Questions to the extraverts,

    Do you feel comfortable being alone?
    Do you feel the need to constantly engage people?
    sure, i feel totally fine alone. i don't mind grabbing lunch, going to a movie or whatever by myself...however given a choice i'd choose to have a friend go with me.

    but...i prefer no company to bad company or less than great company even.

    and...i feel the need to engage with people for a bit everyday yeah and if it has been too long since i was with a lot of people having fun and conversations and such i'll crave that too. i don't really go a day w/o having a longish phone or im conversation.
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    i've always known there was a middle between being extraverted and introverted. people that like spending time with other people, but at the same time are drained by those people. the pro of the E and the con of the I. i bet you could find the reverse as well.
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