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    He is very clear that he has no clue whatsoever what causes us to be happy, while at the same time slandering people's tendency to assume things, regarding MBTI type, which he clearly does not support. And thus he vaguely tries to connect happiness and MBTI types to each other in the hopes of breaking our assumption of the latter. Without any concrete arguements or thoughts to go with it, which causes him to remain innocent and excluded.

    In other words, a lazy attempt to prove his point.



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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    You are born to type.
    So they say.
    Whoever they are.

    Happiness is inborn.
    Or acquired.
    Maybe both.

    Or neither.
    Ask the torturer what will make him happy and he will say a confession from the victim.

    Ask the victim and he will say stopping the torture will make him happy.

    One wants something the other wants nothing. One thinks he's happy the other really is.

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    I believe you can be just as happy as you set your mind to be. (quoting the words of Lincoln). The way you do is the way you live, the most ironical enemy you can have is yourself and only you alone are responsible for it.

    To see your "happiness" as tied to something outside of you or the conditions (hereditary aspects, e.g) is basically letting yourself out of responsibility. That way you can always also justify your "unhappiness".

    I dislike thinking my peace of mind would be fundamentally linked to anything or anyone in particular. I look for my mind in order to find peace, not necessarily happiness. Contentment. You, by your own perceiving, make your own perceptions. It goes through me first, and I give it a meaning. Just like everyone else does in their own. I just decide to so in a way that could, as a result, bring me the most happiness.

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    It can be very, very difficult to stop blaming things (both within and without), once you're in the habit.

    That's the biggest source of misery, though. Blame creates a sense of helplessness. If you can minimize it, you're on a good path to self-possession, which in turn leads to happiness.

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    ^^ good point. it's relinquishing the control over others actions for me...i think. i've never felt that. i think people have the right to be exactly what they are and it's up to me to accept it and appreciate it or decide i want no part of it and remove myself so...there is no blame just a situation that needs to be changed so you do...and go on with your lil happy self.
    There can’t be any large-scale revolution until there’s a personal revolution, on an individual level. It’s got to happen inside first.
    -Jim Morrison

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    Yes, that seems the ideal way of going about things. In the house where I grew up, blame, guilt, and shame were pretty much the same as air and water. As I get older I better understand why that was, and I have somewhat been able to retrain myself. It's a constant work in progress, and do I ever have my down days, particularly in regard to myself, but I guess it does lead to some insight.

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    I think some types may have an advantage over others when it comes to happiness, but I think we are all capable of being happy if we try.
    "When a resolute young fellow steps up the great bully, the world, and takes him boldly by the beard, he is often surprised to find that it comes off in his hand, and that it was only tied on to scare away the timid adventurers." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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    I think the types most inclined to search for reason may be the most at risk, as there can be a fine line between an explanation and an excuse.

    I've read that INTPs and INFJs are the most prone to suicidal ideation. This may result from a certain inevitability and tunnel vision that one develops in the search for truth. X is ultimately true, and I am certain about it; therefore... there is nothing I can do about it. Nothing I can do, nothing I can do. Nothing. Nothing. Brain snaps. Broken record.

    Again, though, much of it is training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aderack View Post
    Nothing I can do, nothing I can do. Nothing. Nothing. Brain snaps. Broken record.
    OMG, this made me crack the fuck up. "I have failed..." Priceless!!!!

    (Sorry to laugh at your misery )

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    I've gotten better...

    Sort of.

    (I swear, every Doctor Who serial has a moment as remarkable/bewildering as this.)

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