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    I've been thinking about such things a lot lately.

    I think that when we initially perceive something, we store it as a series of inherent archetypes based on how we perceived it. Later on, we recall that series of archetypes along with a vague impression of the circumstances that surrounded them. But not the exact situation.

    I think that there is a limit to what degree of reality we can perceive. I do think that at least some of what we see through our senses must be true on some level, but there's no telling how much of what we think is true is simply an interpretation of reality thrown at us by our minds, that gives us a combination of stuff from our unconscious and what's coming in through our senses.

    In other words, things might be true, but not in EXACTLY the way we think they are. The version we know of may only be a simplified reflection of it's actual nature that allows just enough awareness of what is being dealt with for our own purposes.

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    ...and?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    Gosh, the world looks so small from up here on my high horse of menstruation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    ...and?
    You're soooo hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    You're soooo hot.
    Finally, something in this thread I can get behind.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    Gosh, the world looks so small from up here on my high horse of menstruation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    we do know there is one absolute reality

    Is it behind door number 1, 2, or 3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Is it behind door number 1, 2, or 3?
    Only 13 posts.
    Excellent, Jaguar.

    The thoughtful Athenian provided extra detail- a good job.

    Thank you for all concerned.
    Very good posts. Not a single blemish.

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    You are right. Memory is constructed retrospectively.

    A few years ago I went to dinner with a friend and afterwards went to see a band. I commented recently on how enjoyable the evening was and how good the band had been. He looked at me as if I was mad - all the details were correct but the band was a different band. I saw one band, he saw another. I know my version is correct and I am sure he knows his version is correct. Two bands for the price of one.

    Now that's value for money.

    Yes. I remember it well...

    YouTube - PETULA CLARK & BASIL BRUSH - I Remember it Well


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Is it behind door number 1, 2, or 3?
    It's behind every door, you can't miss it. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by bananatrombones View Post
    You are right. Memory is constructed retrospectively.

    A few years ago I went to dinner with a friend and afterwards went to see a band. I commented recently on how enjoyable the evening was and how good the band had been. He looked at me as if I was mad - all the details were correct but the band was a different band. I saw one band, he saw another. I know my version is correct and I am sure he knows his version is correct. Two bands for the price of one.

    Now that's value for money.

    Yes. I remember it well...

    YouTube - PETULA CLARK & BASIL BRUSH - I Remember it Well

    Well said.
    Memory is constructed retrospectively.
    True.

    Is the retrospective construct the first construct?
    No.
    Otherwise it would not be a retrospective construct.

    When does the first construct take place?
    While we see.

    The eye does not see.
    It records.

    The record player does not understand the record.
    The eye is a machine.

    Understanding is a construct.
    To see is to imagine.

    Science is fiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    When does the first construct take place?
    While we see.

    The eye does not see.
    It records.

    The record player does not understand the record.
    The eye is a machine.
    Acquisition is sensory. Acquire, store, access. The eye sees what is there; the brain what is not there. Both whisper lies to each other - there's the paradox.

    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    Understanding is a construct.
    To see is to imagine.
    The most difficult. How to organise and access. That which is and that which is not become images, and images are not words. They are of equal significance in the mind's eye. That which is not = that which is. This is called acute perception and it comes with a cost.

    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    Science is fiction.
    And fiction is a lie which is true - another paradox.

    Acute perception requires visual thinking. Words are reductive and 2 dimentional; only images and ideas are real. The minds eye makes of them what it will. All words are fake. All language is a perversion.

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