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Costrin and BlackCat's super duper typology overview (of doom)

VagrantFarce

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dont take this an attack, but A LOT of that sounds like a description of Ni... for the sake of function accuracy, you may need to do a profile of ALL the functions at once haha... just help yourself maintain differences.

This is a good idea; define the functions, and explain how they work together with each type.
 

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That may sound a lot like Ni because every introverted function is basically a system of data within you, and you can sorta relate it to the Ti definition that he has.
 

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dont take this an attack, but A LOT of that sounds like a description of Ni... for the sake of function accuracy, you may need to do a profile of ALL the functions at once haha... just help yourself maintain differences.

Unsurprisingly. Ti and Ni can look very similiar.
 

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Kangirl, expect ENTJs and ENFJs to go last. We always do! But heck, at least we can make some friends while waiting in line.
 

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dont take this an attack, but A LOT of that sounds like a description of Ni... for the sake of function accuracy, you may need to do a profile of ALL the functions at once haha... just help yourself maintain differences.

I think Ti an Ni are very similar. The difference is that Ni shows you all the possible connections and Ti makes the connections to get to conclusions.

correct me if I'm wrong
 

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I think Ti an Ni are very similar. The difference is that Ni shows you all the possible connections and Ti makes the connections to get to conclusions.

correct me if I'm wrong

Very similiar to how I've worded it in the past:

"Difference is that Ni discovers the connections, Ti makes them."
"The difference is that to Ni, they were always there, Ni just found them. Ti on the other hand, tied them together by hand."
 

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Ti makes a whole bunch of extra connections for Ni to discover, to find out they're something else, or like something else.
 

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Kangirl, expect ENTJs and ENFJs to go last. We always do! But heck, at least we can make some friends while waiting in line.

I suppose our 2 types are being left for last because Costrin and Blackcat know that we are calm, stoical, patient, and always willing to let others go first.

*cough* :D
 

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Another place where Ti is evident is in music. Where a Te approach to learning to play an instrument would be to learn the scales and chords and how to read sheet music and all that, Ti would learn by doing. It would learn by experimenting with the instrument, by listening to music and hearing the underlying structure and then applying that to the individual's own playing.
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*Skips reading posts to respond to this snippet*

That would make sense, since when I use my shadow Te and try and learn the things like that, it just doesn't click, but when I find a cool little section of notes to tinker with on my guitar, I learn it a lot more readily. My F (Fi? Fe? I dunno which one) also works as the judge of how good the bit actually is, though Te may say 'that doesn't fit into the scale? Why does it still sound good?' then Fe or Fi, or even Se, needs to push it to the side and say 'It sounds good, that's all that matters.'
"The difference is that to Ni, they were always there, Ni just found them. Ti on the other hand, tied them together by hand."

That's just one part of what Ni does.

I think Ni, Ti's close sibling, is about 'gazing into the crystal ball' so to speak and understand how things flow in our mind. Data that comes in is influenced by that mental aether, leading to hunches and other insights. Sort of like those cool goggles Johny Depp had in the Sleepy Hollow movie he was in, or, even more accurate, the magic stone the kids had in the Spiderwick Chronicles. Also, when the Aether starts to flow, ideas just come naturally to Ni, leading to the mass jumble of ideas that try to get out at once when I get on a train of thought. IT also lead to this wall of text :D

Ne comes up with ideas compared to the object, these ideas can rebound off each other like pool balls, leading so some interesting insights and creations. It loves to explore 'idea-scapes'. When Ne clicks in, NPs seem to love rebounding ideas off of each other. It's dangerous to put 2 ENTPs in a room for that reason. :D

Since Si is the concrete form of Ni, it's much more past based since the data you get is stored. Where Ni sort of vaporizes it into a weird cloud, Si blocks it together. Organizing all the data into sections of a wall. New data is related to the wall in where it goes and what should be done with it.

Se, I think, likes to explore the world with the senses, taking in data to use to add to the world, to make it interesting. Since Se is fundamentally always in the world, it loves to keep it interesting. It also understands its chosen realm very well. The example of Ti/Se allows, say, an ISTP carpenter to understand all the intricacies of his tools and how to make that cabinet outstanding.

That's my understanding of the functions, I was on a roll and didn't want to block off the ideas. I still don't think I totally understand the judging functions.
 

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*Skips reading posts to respond to this snippet*

That would make sense, since when I use my shadow Te and try and learn the things like that, it just doesn't click, but when I find a cool little section of notes to tinker with on my guitar, I learn it a lot more readily. My F (Fi? Fe? I dunno which one) also works as the judge of how good the bit actually is, though Te may say 'that doesn't fit into the scale? Why does it still sound good?' .

or you could Te your way into looking up what scale those notes DO fit into :D ...they sound good because they apart of some other scale or the "same" scale in another "key". /Te factiod regurgitation.
 

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or you could Te your way into looking up what scale those notes DO fit into :D ...they sound good because they apart of some other scale or the "same" scale in another "key". /Te factiod regurgitation.

My Te sucks, it would take too much energy to do that. I just wanna play guitar! :D
 

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My Te sucks, it would take too much energy to do that. I just wanna play guitar! :D

oh you silly INFJs :D






...wait, im supposed to hate INFJs still! dont let iwaker see this... :run:
 

Skyward

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You're an ENTJ for crying out loud! you have an army of soldiers -somewhere- you can use to keep Iwakar off you! :D

My Te always just gets me absorbed in the organization-for-streamlining and it usually just ends up with me wasting time. I envy people who can use it effectively :)

That goes with Si... Se... Ti... Fi... :D
 

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Did you guys give up on this or has your P become stronger?
 

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My Te always just gets me absorbed in the organization-for-streamlining and it usually just ends up with me wasting time. I envy people who can use it effectively :)
Hear hear! Organisation, reorganisation, re-reorganisation, no it could be more streamlined still... aaaagh when can I get to the doing rather than planning!
 

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~DESCRIPTION OF Fi FOR REFERENCE~

Fi is about value typically. This value is usually self centered, and it's about making the user feel good. These values can branch to other people, for example making it so if X person feels good then the Fi user will feel good as well as a result. Fi users are also granted the ability to know how someone is feeling (one way or another). With this ability the person may be able to see through other's intentions, or anything that you could have based on knowing the other's emotional state.

My theory about how all of this works is that Fi is a database of emotion within the person. You can take from this, add to it, look at it as a reference etc. This may be where "values" come to be, within this database. The person's emotional experiences and the emotions they have felt go in this database, and they are stored as a memory sort of. While in there the person will remember how they felt when a certain thing happened, and they may want to influence their emotional state by experiencing this again. Or on the other hand, something may make them feel bad, and they may want to avoid these feelings of negativity. This is where "something just doesn't feel right" comes in. This also may be where things may feel a certain to someone, and they make this judgment immediately when they come in contact with something. As Udog said later in the thread this could be called "resonance" with something. If this resonance is a bad one then the person will try to make it good in some way, and if it's good then it will be kept good.

I may add to this later, and I will take your input to heart. :)
 
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