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    I think the thing is the definition aka work ethic is something needed to keep things seeming sane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAVO View Post
    Formal education is so far removed from reality that it seems pedantic to me. It's unlikely I'll ever be able to tolerate it again for more than one semester at a time.

    That is funny I thought you would say the exact opposite. I have never seen an INTP say that Formal Education is far from reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAVO View Post
    Formal education is so far removed from reality that it seems pedantic to me. It's unlikely I'll ever be able to tolerate it again for more than one semester at a time.
    Took the words right outta my mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lasting_Pain View Post
    That is funny I thought you would say the exact opposite. I have never seen an INTP say that Formal Education is far from reality.
    Formal education IS very far from reality. Even in higher level programs...I know of at least four different programs (including my own) that still make their MA and PhD students take written comps exams. This means that they have to sit in a room for four hours and write a big long paper that they most likely memorized before going into the exam.

    Apparently, this is supposed to prove that you're capable of moving on to more serious work, though in reality it's nothing but idiotic hoop-jumping. Most of academia is just that, though. Idiotic hoop-jumping.
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    Let us consult the most holy video about our pending problem:

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    formal education is extremely irritating and i hate it. i hate that since a young age i was pushed to get a slip of paper that somehow makes more of an expert in a field then someone without a slip of paper.

    i push to succeed nonetheless and this does not make me lazy in anyway. i would consider my work ethic quite good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    Formal education IS very far from reality. Even in higher level programs...I know of at least four different programs (including my own) that still make their MA and PhD students take written comps exams. This means that they have to sit in a room for four hours and write a big long paper that they most likely memorized before going into the exam.

    Apparently, this is supposed to prove that you're capable of moving on to more serious work, though in reality it's nothing but idiotic hoop-jumping. Most of academia is just that, though. Idiotic hoop-jumping.
    It was this sort of thing that made me relieved to finish. I mean honestly this promotes rote learning and memorisation and hardly incourages innovative and imaginative people (don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that about anyone here).
    However I have seen more than a few people go onto masters programes etc, and they barely have a true understanding of the topics they are studying, they get through by memorising.
    One house mate, back in my uni days, comes to mind. She used to come pick our brains when she didn't understand things. You knew she didn't understand when she finished as well, but low and behold, she'd go to the lecturers and squeeze out perfect definitions from them but you just knew it was all words to her, and there was no true understanding. Throw her a question that deviated from the norm and she couldn't answer you. She couldn't work out logically the right answer.
    Everybody who flatted with her, kinda lost faith in academia. She got better marks than all of us, but she still couldn't tell us what her research was about for her masters (some thing to do with plant physiology). This was the women who didn't understand plant respiration.
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    I'm getting my Master's in Public Administration now, part time at night, 2 classes per semester, 4 out of 7 completed. I like it alot, it's a great program at FSU and the professors have real world expertise to share. I did not like undergraduate studies, they did not mean anything to me as they were not associated with my work, as I had no real job or career. Now my college material is directly related to my career and so it is interesting and enjoyable. Oh, and when I was in my 20's I did not know I was an ESTP with OCD and ADHD. Now I'm 35, know all these things, and can take Ritalin when I need to concentrate and my brain is fighting my ability to do so. I use it a few times per week, mostly when I have to do low-level/granular work like SQL programming. When I do creative analytical work I need no meds, I just be my zany self and it all comes together...that goes for housework too.

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    If there's one thing I've been constantly re-learning about myself is that I hate to study something that doesn't naturally interest me.

    I'm on the verge of changing majors because of this. I just wasn't made to eat what's others put on my plate.

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    Yes, yes, yes @ OP. I'm very interested and passionate about learning but following a set curriculum and doing assignments and tests to show what I've learnt to another person doesn't interest me in the slightest, as such most styles of formal training arenít for me. Iíd be the person who does an entire course just so I understood something but then not be bothered to complete a test to get a piece of paper to show that I had.

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