User Tag List

12 Last

Results 1 to 10 of 20

  1. #1

    Default Positive and Practical Uses of Type

    I guess there has been a lot of "pigeonholing", "self-pigeonholing" and "excusism" going on with typology as a backing (I am guilty as well).

    But can people relate positive uses of typology In Real Life?

    For me the clearest positive use is in "lateral thinking", putting on different "hats" (S vs. N, I vs. E, T vs. F, J vs. P, Ne vs. Se, Se vs. Si ....).

    This allows us to consider perspectives that we might not otherwise.

    I also cosidered using it for a short hand for people I know, but I find that it is hard for me not to pigeonhole people once I do this. But I suppose if done without pigeonholing, this could help understand someone else.

    I was wondering if people had positive experience of using type in real life (not just for speculation)?

    Accept the past. Live for the present. Look forward to the future.
    Robot Fusion
    "As our island of knowledge grows, so does the shore of our ignorance." John Wheeler
    "[A] scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy." Richard Feynman
    "[P]etabytes of [] data is not the same thing as understanding emergent mechanisms and structures." Jim Crutchfield

  2. #2
    Pareo cattus Natrushka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    MBTI
    INTJ
    Posts
    1,213

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo View Post

    I was wondering if people had positive experience of using type in real life (not just for speculation)?
    Yes, I have. It helps me understand those people closest to me who are different. I am an INTJ living with an ISTJ and from time to time we simply don't see eye to eye. It's frustrating and it can lead to arguments. Knowing that we may interpret something differently, that it's how we collect and process information has helped me to not be so frustrated; it's helped me better our relationship. It's helped him as well; I used to think he thought I was being difficult on purpose. Turns out he did. Now he at least knows we are different, even though in many ways we're a lot a like.

    This signature left intentionally blank.

    Really.

  3. #3
    Permabanned
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    MBTI
    xkcd
    Enneagram
    9w1 sx/sp
    Socionics
    INT_
    Posts
    10,733

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Natrushka View Post
    even though in many ways we're a lot a like.
    I like that line.

  4. #4

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Natrushka View Post
    Yes, I have. It helps me understand those people closest to me who are different. I am an INTJ living with an ISTJ and from time to time we simply don't see eye to eye. It's frustrating and it can lead to arguments. Knowing that we may interpret something differently, that it's how we collect and process information has helped me to not be so frustrated; it's helped me better our relationship. It's helped him as well; I used to think he thought I was being difficult on purpose. Turns out he did. Now he at least knows we are different, even though in many ways we're a lot a like.
    Was there resistance to the "I am different, so that's why I act the way I do" part ov the conversation? Did he think it was an "excuse"? If so, how did you get past that part of the conversation.

    Accept the past. Live for the present. Look forward to the future.
    Robot Fusion
    "As our island of knowledge grows, so does the shore of our ignorance." John Wheeler
    "[A] scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy." Richard Feynman
    "[P]etabytes of [] data is not the same thing as understanding emergent mechanisms and structures." Jim Crutchfield

  5. #5
    Pareo cattus Natrushka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    MBTI
    INTJ
    Posts
    1,213

    Default

    He still sometimes thinks it's rationalizing 'bad behaviour' as he likes to put it when he's upset, but he understands we are different, even though we approach things logically. He's much less introverted than I am, and he's big on 'keeping up appearances' and "not making waves" (but only with certain people), he thinks I am antisocial (I can be, but I can also be social) and he worries sometimes as to what will come out of my mouth when faced with a stupid comment from someone.

    Misunderstandings happen less and less... I have to think hard to come up with a recent one (but I can!) whereas it used to be a weekly occurrence.

    I am most grateful that he now understands I need my independence and autonomy and this need is not a reflection of how I feel about him.

    This signature left intentionally blank.

    Really.

  6. #6

    Default

    One of the issues I have is that you need the other peson to know about MBTI also to open the discussion. Considering that I really don't believe the typology myself, it is hard to convinve others that I am the way I am not out of spite or due to lack of effort, but I am simply "wired" different.

    Considering how often I have to say things like that, I actually start to believe that there is something "wrong" with me.

    But I am glad to hear that the problems have reduced over time for someone in some situation due to using type.

    Accept the past. Live for the present. Look forward to the future.
    Robot Fusion
    "As our island of knowledge grows, so does the shore of our ignorance." John Wheeler
    "[A] scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy." Richard Feynman
    "[P]etabytes of [] data is not the same thing as understanding emergent mechanisms and structures." Jim Crutchfield

  7. #7
    Pareo cattus Natrushka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    MBTI
    INTJ
    Posts
    1,213

    Default

    What helped me get the concept across was a print out of the 'typical' ISTJ and INTJ relationship from personality pages. There's a lot of both of us in those descriptions. Then I pulled off his sister and he was hooked.

    This signature left intentionally blank.

    Really.

  8. #8

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Natrushka View Post
    What helped me get the concept across was a print out of the 'typical' ISTJ and INTJ relationship from personality pages. There's a lot of both of us in those descriptions. Then I pulled off his sister and he was hooked.
    I see. I have found it hard to find people that match the discriptions that well. But I suppose the based them off some people. But I'll keep it in mind for cases when people do meet the discriptions.

    The main thing I would like people to understand, is that there can be quite different fundamentally from them wihtout being bad.

    Accept the past. Live for the present. Look forward to the future.
    Robot Fusion
    "As our island of knowledge grows, so does the shore of our ignorance." John Wheeler
    "[A] scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy." Richard Feynman
    "[P]etabytes of [] data is not the same thing as understanding emergent mechanisms and structures." Jim Crutchfield

  9. #9
    Pareo cattus Natrushka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    MBTI
    INTJ
    Posts
    1,213

    Default

    Different is strange and that's often 'bad' to people. I know. I've spent a great deal of my life feeling left out and misunderstood. That part I do get.

    This signature left intentionally blank.

    Really.

  10. #10

    Default

    True. I don't have too mauch of an issue with other "weird" people. They let me be.

    "Differerent"/"strange" comes in all types. Some of what follows are tested results--they gave the test in many high-schools. My brother and sister took web tests, and the rest are speculations.

    Some of my closest friends are ISTP/ISTJs who are "odd" (I think partly because they are exceptionally smart-- 1500+ on their SATs, top 10 of their class, etc.).

    I have several "odd" ENTP and INFP friends. I know a couple of INT's at work that I am become closer with. Most of my chess buddies (I think a chess obsession would make them "odd") are NT's.

    My sister is an ENFP and understands being "weird".

    My brother is an ISFP. We have our issues, but I think it is mainly due to age difference. He is almost 10 years younger and he was just 7 when I left home. So it's almost like we don't know each other.

    I have become close with several people from a bible study I go to (despite not being Christian). Most, I would say, are FJs, with a few FP's and NT's mixed in.

    Accept the past. Live for the present. Look forward to the future.
    Robot Fusion
    "As our island of knowledge grows, so does the shore of our ignorance." John Wheeler
    "[A] scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy." Richard Feynman
    "[P]etabytes of [] data is not the same thing as understanding emergent mechanisms and structures." Jim Crutchfield

Similar Threads

  1. [SP] uses of type, and why I'm leaving
    By sarah in forum The SP Arthouse (ESFP, ISFP, ESTP, ISTP)
    Replies: 187
    Last Post: 09-06-2015, 10:24 PM
  2. Replies: 3
    Last Post: 03-23-2011, 06:53 PM
  3. Type and the Use of Emoticons
    By MerkW in forum The Bonfire
    Replies: 47
    Last Post: 07-09-2010, 12:59 PM
  4. [NT] High impact on society, reality tested, and heavy use of logic and symbolic math
    By ygolo in forum The NT Rationale (ENTP, INTP, ENTJ, INTJ)
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 12-13-2008, 09:16 PM
  5. Deliberate use of type theory in fiction
    By Quinlan in forum Popular Culture and Type
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 12-13-2008, 09:35 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO