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    Quote Originally Posted by paisley1 View Post
    Do you have an evolutionary reason? Just cuz? Is there a way of tampering with the genome to get the proper balance of personality types necessary for a functioning society? Predestination and the sovereignty of God is the best answer in my mind.
    I reckon the answer would lie in evolutionary psychology, if MBTI had more validity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChosenOne View Post
    These statistics are for Americans. For another nation, it would probably be pretty different.
    so the government really puts stuff in your drinking water

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    Evolutionary psychology towards personality frequency in general, if not mbti if you'd like. Even granted that, how does evolutionary psychology explain the, why, it works out harmoniously? Again, just sounds like, just cuz. "It does ok." "That's how evolution works." Why questions usually end with such blanket statements by evolutionists when it comes to matters of metaphysics when there's really nothing scientific for why it should work out harmoniously. Out of randomness, somehow, magic order. (eye roll) I try not to buy into thinking so blatantly riddled with logical fallacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paisley1 View Post
    Evolutionary psychology towards personality frequency in general, if not mbti if you'd like. Even granted that, how does evolutionary psychology explain the, why, it works out harmoniously? Again, just sounds like, just cuz. "It does ok." "That's how evolution works." Why questions usually end with such blanket statements by evolutionists when it comes to matters of metaphysics when there's really nothing scientific for why it should work out harmoniously. Out of randomness, somehow, magic order. (eye roll) I try not to buy into thinking so blatantly riddled with logical fallacy.
    It doesn't work because it exists, it exists because it works.

    If that mix of "types" worked better for one genetic group of people than another group with a different mix, then the first's groups chance of survival would be higher, and then that pattern of types would be refined and amplified after each successful generation of the first group.

    If you see order in nature it exists because order provided some sort of advantage over chaos. If that mix of types didn't work or remained chaotic, it would have proved unfit long ago and it wouldn't be evident for us to talk about it now.

    I suppose.

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    i just read a non-type related journalistic article about forms of intuition and in particular about how economic businessmen men deal with "gut feeling" when they make decisions about share stocks and stuff.

    anyway, it claimed that 70% of American businessmen "admit" to use "gut feeling", but only 30% of german business men.

    so apparently we are the bigger suckers for SJ culture values.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paisley1 View Post
    Evolutionary psychology towards personality frequency in general, if not mbti if you'd like. Even granted that, how does evolutionary psychology explain the, why, it works out harmoniously? Again, just sounds like, just cuz. "It does ok." "That's how evolution works." Why questions usually end with such blanket statements by evolutionists when it comes to matters of metaphysics when there's really nothing scientific for why it should work out harmoniously. Out of randomness, somehow, magic order. (eye roll) I try not to buy into thinking so blatantly riddled with logical fallacy.
    The idea that some invisible all-powerful God just made it work sounds even more magical to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanook View Post
    i just read a non-type related journalistic article about forms of intuition and in particular about how economic businessmen men deal with "gut feeling" when they make decisions about share stocks and stuff.
    Interesting. More businesses are differentiating themselves based on "feeling"-related themes rather than technical themes nowadays. For example, Subaru is one of the only car companies in the world whose sales are up (although slightly) and they have won several awards for their "Love" ad campaign. (And it's not just hype - this is what that company really believes in, over the course of many, many years...) So, this makes sense that people would pick stocks partly based on gut feeling...
    "How can I be, all I want to be,
    When all I want to do is strip away these stilled constraints
    And crush this charade, shred this sad, masquerade"
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    hm, that article was about the perspective of neuroscience on desicion making, on how subconsciousness is involved and often superior in results. so "gut feeling" was just an ambiguous term for .... anything unconscious. whatever it is.

    the way i see it, "gut feeling" is statistically most often a term that non intuitive people (like SP) use to refer to their inferior (unconscious) intuition/instinct. since it is unconscious, it eventually "somatizes" to the gut, to get some attention.

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    I refuse to contribute to this thread due to moral and religious conflicts.

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    I've read that INFJ is the rarest overall type and that ISTJ is most common.

    This is for the overall population, though--for men, it happens to be the same. ISTJ is most common; INFJ is rarest.

    For women, though, INTJ is rarest and ISFJ is most common.
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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